We must control Harbrow

samoht · Post: # 988626Post **samoht** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 4:13pm

... he's averaged close to 40 rebounding possessions against us last 2 encounters. .. I think 38 and 36 running bouncing possessions to be exact.

We can't afford to let him do that again.

I hope RL has an effective plan for Harbrow this time around... or is he just relying on being 3rd time lucky ?

Animal Enclosure · Thu 16 Sep 2010 4:26pm

Time for Harbrow to be JONESED!

Harbrow is a key no doubt. Shut him down & their run off half back (with Murphy up forward) will struggle.

dcstkfc · Post: # 988649Post **dcstkfc** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 4:51pm

Animal Enclosure wrote:Time for Harbrow to be JONESED!

Harbrow is a key no doubt. Shut him down & their run off half back (with Murphy up forward) will struggle.

Griffen should be Jonesed I reckon.

Perhaps Eddy (if he plays) or Mini could play a forward defensive role on Harbrow

samoht · Post: # 988650Post **samoht** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 4:56pm

We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?

BonoRocks · Post: # 988651Post **BonoRocks** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 4:58pm

samoht wrote:We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?

not as stupid as it sounds, he isnt a bad shot for goal id like to see eddy out and baker played forward. Definately an option..... He simply must be played this week he will be needed next week should we make it..

Unforgiven · Post: # 988653Post **Unforgiven** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 5:06pm

Interesting idea, can't see it happening. McQulater or Eddy will get that role, Jones will be going to Griffen, just like he'd go to Cooney if he was playing.

plugger66 · Post: # 988659Post **plugger66** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 5:18pm

samoht wrote:We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?

Bakes was quick but any more. Chances of him playing are 1000 to 1 IMO.

Con Gorozidis · Thu 16 Sep 2010 5:21pm

samoht wrote:... he's averaged close to 40 rebounding possessions against us last 2 encounters. .. I think 38 and 36 running bouncing possessions to be exact.

We can't afford to let him do that again.

I hope RL has an effective plan for Harbrow this time around... or is he just relying on being 3rd time lucky ?

yeah. when they have harbrow and the coon dog running rampant they really bother us. luckily coon dog is out so we can give harbrow more attention.

Bernard Shakey · Thu 16 Sep 2010 10:27pm

plugger66 wrote:
samoht wrote:We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?
Bakes was quick but any more. Chances of him playing are 1000 to 1 IMO.

Bakes will play, but not on Harbrow. That job goes to Eddy.

jonesy · Post: # 988956Post **jonesy** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 11:39pm

Stop Harbow and Griffen and the jobs done.
Or conversley,stop Boyd and Cross getting it out to Harbrow and Griffen, and the jobs done.

dcstkfc · Post: # 988961Post **dcstkfc** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 11:46pm

jonesy wrote:Stop Harbow and Griffen and the jobs done.
Or conversley,stop Boyd and Cross getting it out to Harbrow and Griffen, and the jobs done.

As always, midfield battle is huge. Lenny is a class above Boyd and Cross, and if he plays like he usually does, will obviously go a long way towards us winning. I want to see Dal rip a final to shreds as well.

saint patrick · Thu 16 Sep 2010 11:48pm

plugger66 wrote:
samoht wrote:We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?
Bakes was quick but any more. Chances of him playing are 1000 to 1 IMO.

Want a dollar on that at those odds Plugger

dcstkfc · Post: # 988965Post **dcstkfc** » Thu 16 Sep 2010 11:51pm

Do either of Bernard or Patrick have sources on their Baker stories.

PM me if you're feeling generous.

AccidentallyTim · Fri 17 Sep 2010 12:30am

Bernard Shakey wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
samoht wrote:We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?
Bakes was quick but any more. Chances of him playing are 1000 to 1 IMO.
Bakes will play, but not on Harbrow. That job goes to Eddy.

Who would come out for Baker?

I thought Eddy would be the one because Dempster is the chosen one, I can't think of anyone else that would miss out tho

plugger66 · Post: # 989053Post **plugger66** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 8:47am

saint patrick wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
samoht wrote:We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?
Bakes was quick but any more. Chances of him playing are 1000 to 1 IMO.
Want a dollar on that at those odds Plugger

Sorry that was supposed to be on Harbrow. Wouldnt have a clue if he will actually play but is 1000 to 1 to play on Harbrow if Harbrow plays back. BS seems to know he is playing. must be all that inside knowledge he gets.

saint vince · Fri 17 Sep 2010 9:27am

samoht wrote:... he's averaged close to 40 rebounding possessions against us last 2 encounters. .. I think 38 and 36 running bouncing possessions to be exact.

We can't afford to let him do that again.

I hope RL has an effective plan for Harbrow this time around... or is he just relying on being 3rd time lucky ?

Can you explain this stat? Are you sayng he has had 38 and 36 bounces in our last two games or 38 and 36 posesions when he has bounced it or just 38 and 36 possesions?

Mr Magic · Post: # 989084Post **Mr Magic** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 9:50am

saint vince wrote:
samoht wrote:... he's averaged close to 40 rebounding possessions against us last 2 encounters. .. I think 38 and 36 running bouncing possessions to be exact.

We can't afford to let him do that again.

I hope RL has an effective plan for Harbrow this time around... or is he just relying on being 3rd time lucky ?

Can you explain this stat? Are you sayng he has had 38 and 36 bounces in our last two games or 38 and 36 posesions when he has bounced it or just 38 and 36 possesions?

38 and 36 disposals
amny of them running
some of them also bouncing the ball as he ran

Bardon Saint · Fri 17 Sep 2010 12:27pm

The dogs stats from the last game we played against them are overinflated. They possessed too much. Rather than looking at Harbrow's numbers, I found his dash from the back line/breaking lines to really hurt us.

GO SAINTS!

samoht · Post: # 989237Post **samoht** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 1:01pm

Sydney recently kept Harbrow to 11 possessions - Roos had a plan to stop him - RL needs to do the same.
Maybe he should ring up his friend and get some tips ?

What concerns me is that Harbrow had 2 consecutive "blinders" against us - Why ? - as he probably "only" averages 20 possessions/game.

If we restrict him to 11 possessions (instead of 36 or 38) .. it'll be like finding another 25 plus possessions... we need to do it.

Thinline · Post: # 989251Post **Thinline** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 1:12pm

samoht wrote:Sydney recently kept Harbrow to 11 possessions - Roos had a plan to stop him - RL needs to do the same.
Maybe he should ring up his friend and get some tips ?

What concerns me is that Harbrow had 2 consecutive "blinders" against us - Why ? - as he probably "only" averages 20 possessions/game.

If we restrict him to 11 possessions (instead of 36 or 38) .. it'll be like finding another 25 plus possessions... we need to do it.

I'd suggest - as some still think re Swan - that Lyon said 'well Harbrow may get 30, but something will only come of 5-10, therefore we'll focus our defensive attention elsewhere ie blokes who penetrate with accuracy forward of centre...

But without Cooney, there's one less danger to quell, so Harbrow this time would get the clamps well and truly put on him. He won't like it either.

bergholt · Post: # 989258Post **bergholt** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 1:24pm

BonoRocks wrote:
samoht wrote:We know Baker is quick .. it would be strange to see him forward, but could that be a match up ?
not as stupid as it sounds, he isnt a bad shot for goal id like to see eddy out and baker played forward.

191 games, 34 goals. i can't remember the last time he kicked one - the stats say he hasn't kicked a goal since round 20, 2007. (though that's only 39 games because he missed 2008.)

eddy should play and he, peake and mcqualter should rotate on harbrow, murphy and gilbee. if eddy, mcqualter or dempster are poor this week - and we get through - then bakes might have a shot for next week. but if he plays this week, he won't come up for next week - if we get through.

Thinline · Post: # 989270Post **Thinline** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 1:38pm

bergholt wrote:
191 games, 34 goals. i can't remember the last time he kicked one - the stats say he hasn't kicked a goal since round 20, 2007. (though that's only 39 games because he missed 2008.)

v Freo in Launceston after the siren? Or was that a point?

ralphsmith · Post: # 989274Post **ralphsmith** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 1:42pm

samoht wrote:... he's averaged close to 40 rebounding possessions against us last 2 encounters

That's pretty staggering and also unacceptable.

Saints players have to be switched onto this and shut him down,

OneEyedSainter77 · Fri 17 Sep 2010 1:50pm

Stop him, yes. But not with Jones. If we are to win this game, Jones MUST go to Griffen. Easily their most damaging player and Jones can at least somewhat negate him. Maybe just let someone like Joey or Eddy go head to head with Harbrow.

samoht · Post: # 989306Post **samoht** » Fri 17 Sep 2010 2:25pm

OneEyedSainter77 wrote:Stop him, yes. But not with Jones. If we are to win this game, Jones MUST go to Griffen. Easily their most damaging player and Jones can at least somewhat negate him. Maybe just let someone like Joey or Eddy go head to head with Harbrow.

I reckon RL needs to play a close checking HF flanker on Harbrow (it could be Montagna or Eddy) and show him some due respect this time .. and make sure there's some close checking on Gilbee too for that matter.

Just restrict the rebound ! .. and prevent a leaking boat, as it undermines every other positive thing that we do.

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