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How is this stuff still allowed to continue?

Post: # 1133255Post Johnny Member »

Since the 'Saints Pre-Season From Hell', how is it that this type of reporting is allowed to continue?

Here's the headline on news.com.au....

"AFL player 'slapped woman' on Mad Monday"

With the sub-heading...

NOTORIOUS celebrations turn sour for Richmond's Angus Graham as club investigates alleged incident at hotel.



If people actually bother to read this trash, you then find out that ....

Graham doesn't remember it
There 'might' be CCTV footage of it
The girl has only chosen to speak to the Herald-Sun
The police have not been spoken to



I spoke to someone this morning whilst waiting for a coffee and as we were talking about the footy, he said "blah blah blah and that Richmond bloke belted that girl".

Jesus.

At this stage, there is simply one girl telling the Herald-Sun something. There is nothing to support it, nor anything to prove it wrong. There is nothing - yet they go with that headline! And dickheads at cafes take it for gospel!


I'm appalled by this. I can't believe that after what happened earlier this year, that this stuff can keep happening.


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Post: # 1133259Post Cairnsman »

Why do papers like the HS exist?

Find the answer to that question and you may have solved the mystery.


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Post: # 1133260Post PLUGGER14 »

At least News of the World verified their stories before publishing, albeit illegally :wink:


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Post: # 1133267Post markp »

I refuse to even pick up the vile rag to glance at in a cafe now... not even the sport section.

It's an abomination.


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Post: # 1133270Post Dr Spaceman »

markp wrote:I refuse to even pick up the vile rag to glance at in a cafe now... not even the sport section.

It's an abomination.
Yeah, even the weather forecast is sometimes wrong :twisted:


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Post: # 1133303Post plugger66 »

No one reads it but somehow every story is posted on here. Me thinks some and only some really do read it because they love to complain about it.


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Post: # 1133308Post markp »

Dr Spaceman wrote:
markp wrote:I refuse to even pick up the vile rag to glance at in a cafe now... not even the sport section.

It's an abomination.
Yeah, even the weather forecast is sometimes wrong :twisted:
Yup, many's the time they've p!ssed on our backs and told us it's raining.


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Post: # 1133310Post Johnny Member »

plugger66 wrote:No one reads it but somehow every story is posted on here. Me thinks some and only some really do read it because they love to complain about it.

I have no idea what this post has to do with the OP.


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Post: # 1133311Post plugger66 »

Johnny Member wrote:
plugger66 wrote:No one reads it but somehow every story is posted on here. Me thinks some and only some really do read it because they love to complain about it.

I have no idea what this post has to do with the OP.
Sorry I thought you were having a go at the HS. My mistake.


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Post: # 1133312Post IluvHarvey »

Johnny Member wrote:
plugger66 wrote:No one reads it but somehow every story is posted on here. Me thinks some and only some really do read it because they love to complain about it.

I have no idea what this post has to do with the OP.
Why just point this reply out? The thread changed pretty quickly to a HS bashing (of which I condone) before plugger posted!


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Post: # 1133315Post The Fireman »

Cairnsman wrote:Why do papers like the HS exist?

Find the answer to that question and you may have solved the mystery.
Ask the Liberal party.


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Post: # 1133318Post Johnny Member »

plugger66 wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:
plugger66 wrote:No one reads it but somehow every story is posted on here. Me thinks some and only some really do read it because they love to complain about it.

I have no idea what this post has to do with the OP.
Sorry I thought you were having a go at the HS. My mistake.
I quoted news.com I think.


I'm having a go at the media in general in this instance.


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Post: # 1133323Post Johnny Member »

IluvHarvey wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:
plugger66 wrote:No one reads it but somehow every story is posted on here. Me thinks some and only some really do read it because they love to complain about it.

I have no idea what this post has to do with the OP.
Why just point this reply out? The thread changed pretty quickly to a HS bashing (of which I condone) before plugger posted!
The Herald-Sun are part of the media. The quesiton I posed was how can the media continue to behave in this way.

The following posts seemed to be of a similar nature, or at least on topic.

Plugger66's response is clearly a sarcastic dig at people who say they don't read the Herald-Sun. Whether people read the Herald-Sun or not, or they say they do or not is utterly irrelevant to this topic.
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Johnny Member wrote:The Herald-Sun are part of the media. The quesiton I posed was how can the media continue to behave in this way.
sleaze and scandal sell.

Facts? pfft - they are for lefite poofters.


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Post: # 1133329Post Johnny Member »

IluvHarvey wrote:
Johnny Member wrote:
plugger66 wrote:No one reads it but somehow every story is posted on here. Me thinks some and only some really do read it because they love to complain about it.

I have no idea what this post has to do with the OP.
Why just point this reply out? The thread changed pretty quickly to a HS bashing (of which I condone) before plugger posted!
The Herald-Sun are part of the media. The question I posed was 'how can the media continue to behave in this way'.

The following posts seemed to be of a similar nature, or at least on topic.

Plugger66's response is clearly a sarcastic dig at people who say they don't read the Herald-Sun. Whether people read the Herald-Sun or not, or they say they do or not is utterly irrelevant to this topic.


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Post: # 1133428Post saintbrat »

word i heard used to day that wasm't as prelevant last year

"Allegedly"

pretty sure many ' media were stating as fact last year and not ' allegations"


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Post: # 1133441Post SainterK »

Sort of on topic, but this one annoyed me too.


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Post: # 1133447Post saintdooley »

some women are too soft.

If it was the other way around not a word would be spoken of it. Just cop it and move on ffs.


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saintdooley wrote:some women are too soft.

If it was the other way around not a word would be spoken of it. Just cop it and move on ffs.
Not the least bit funny dools, if it was your sister or mother I'm sure you wouldn't be making a joke about it.


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Post: # 1133462Post Johnny Member »

snoopygirl wrote:
saintdooley wrote:some women are too soft.

If it was the other way around not a word would be spoken of it. Just cop it and move on ffs.
Not the least bit funny dools, if it was your sister or mother I'm sure you wouldn't be making a joke about it.
We don't even know that anything has happened at all!

That's the point.


A person has contacted a newspaper and told them that something happened. That's it.

And even after trying to confirm the story, and failing to get any confirmation whatsoever - they run a headline that states "Graham Hits Woman" or whatever they wrote!

That's disgusting. What if it's not true? They've already announced to Victoria via a headline that it's fact, when it isn't fact at this point.


It's disgusting.


There should be no reporting whatsoever of anything, until there is some form of confirmation as to what actually occurred.


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Post: # 1133464Post Old Mate »

saintdooley wrote:some women are too soft.

If it was the other way around not a word would be spoken of it. Just cop it and move on ffs.
Your pimp hand must be strong at all times imo :shock:


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Johnny Member wrote:
snoopygirl wrote:
saintdooley wrote:some women are too soft.

If it was the other way around not a word would be spoken of it. Just cop it and move on ffs.
Not the least bit funny dools, if it was your sister or mother I'm sure you wouldn't be making a joke about it.
We don't even know that anything has happened at all!

That's the point.


A person has contacted a newspaper and told them that something happened. That's it.

And even after trying to confirm the story, and failing to get any confirmation whatsoever - they run a headline that states "Graham Hits Woman" or whatever they wrote!

That's disgusting. What if it's not true? They've already announced to Victoria via a headline that it's fact, when it isn't fact at this point.


It's disgusting.


There should be no reporting whatsoever of anything, until there is some form of confirmation as to what actually occurred.
I was referring to his comment about violence against women in general. I agree, the HS are very clever about making a story out of nothing.


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Post: # 1133500Post andrewg »

The Herald Sun is only as good and successful as the general public alow it to be. Its a rubbish newspaper but the average person cant see through the rubbish and CONTINUE TO BUY IT!!!


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Post: # 1133507Post asiu »

saintdooley wrote:some women are too soft.
Dools , me ol buddy , me ol pal ... :lol:

Not a bad idea to stir em along a bit ... float the odd dry fly along the current

But , whatever ya do son ... DO NOT actually believe those words you wrote.
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