Does anyone here believe we can get 50,000 members in 2012?

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Does anyone here believe we can get 50,000 members in 2012?

Post: # 1187051Post City West »

I'd love to think we could but I highly doubt it. I hope I am proven wrong.


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Post: # 1187055Post plugger66 »

We wont get 40k. We never have even after 3 GF's in 2 years.


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Post: # 1187056Post paulski »

Nup.

Think we might struggle to get to 40,000 again this year,
despite all the positive vibes around the club.

Then again, with some exciting, attacking footy early on, we might
get a few more thousand.


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Post: # 1187058Post thejiggingsaint »

IF the club can actually get a renewal form out to me, I'd say I'm a fair chance of signing up again :roll: :wink: :wink: :lol:


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Post: # 1187063Post skfc17 »

city west.

time to change your avatar


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Post: # 1187064Post saintbrat »

skfc17 wrote:city west.

time to change your avatar
Or atleast re-size


Re the question in OP
I hope Warney is.signing up tjis year and if Liz and Damien are coming alo.g tjey are membrrs too , he has said they will be attending.

Scott was being optimistic but 40,000 would be a start


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Post: # 1187082Post saintlee »

No chance. The goal should be 40K, even that will be an improvement on the last couple of years.


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Post: # 1187085Post PakenhamSaint »

Pigs have a better chance of flying. Anything around the 40K mark would be more real.


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Post: # 1187103Post The Redeemer »

happy with 40k.

we need to establish ourselves out of the bottom group of victorian clubs into the middle.

50k is miles off.


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Post: # 1187120Post st_Trav_ofWA »

If we market it correctly itis achievable but we have to activly persue members and convince them thereis benefit to being a member not just sit back and hope it happens ... The club can't shut out members and expect to grow they have to look beyond the square interstate membership is ripe for growth .. International membership can be pushed there are untapped markets the club can actively market towards but it's not easy and it's not cheap so it is not likely to happen .. It is achievable to get 50k members given the amount of supporters we have but the clubs gotta work to get it there


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Post: # 1187134Post clarky449 »

Struggle to get 40,000 this year. Unless of course we somehow win a toned of games in the first half of the season.


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Post: # 1187144Post matrix »

gee, anyone spot the troll

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Post: # 1187147Post samuraisaint »

anybody remember the night grand final 96 - dwarfed the number of carlton supporters at the game and the numbers of richmond supporters who had turned out a couple of years before for their night grand final in 93 - a supposed big four club - we had possibly 60,000 of our own supporters there that night!
likewise the support for us against north in the 97 prelim in a huge crowd was very one-sided as well.
I also remember a very well supported final against Melbourne in 98 with 88,000 plus supporters at that game too.

Most of our supporters live on the Frankston and Cranbourne/Pakenham train lines, with strong support along the Sandy rail line too. Getting to Docklands/MCG for games is a bit more of a mission for people who live towards the end of those lines, however I reckon two things could help with the club achieving 50,000 members;
attacking football and an up and coming group of youngsters to build excitement.


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Post: # 1187153Post The Redeemer »

I am no marketing specialist however surely if the football club finds a way to tap into the Sandy/Peninsula regions we will pick up scores more members and many more?


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Post: # 1187192Post saintbrat »

The Redeemer wrote:I am no marketing specialist however surely if the football club finds a way to tap into the Sandy/Peninsula regions we will pick up scores more members and many more?
well they are trying
utilising local events- Mornington swim and races and the Frankston Festival this weekend.


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Post: # 1187218Post thejiggingsaint »

I'll be renewing my membership (with social club) but will be dropping the reserved seat, and Age subscription, and will go for 11 home games only!


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Post: # 1187235Post st_Trav_ofWA »

saintbrat wrote:
The Redeemer wrote:I am no marketing specialist however surely if the football club finds a way to tap into the Sandy/Peninsula regions we will pick up scores more members and many more?
well they are trying
utilising local events- Mornington swim and races and the Frankston Festival this weekend.
Hopfully they extend the engagement with fans for the interstaters


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Post: # 1187241Post evertonfc »

We have the numbers, we just have an incredibly lazy support base.

They won't even go to matches at the MCG despite it being much easier to get to for many of our fans in our traditional areas.

40,000 would be a good result.

Ross Lyon's uber defensive style killed off most of the enthusiasm among those bandwagoner types who make the difference between 35,000 and the 50,000 we dream off.


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Post: # 1187307Post whiskers3614 »

Of course we will!
Riewoldt is better than J.Brown,Carey and Royce Hart put together.
Lyon was the Messiah BUT Watters is better.
Milne is the greatest small forward ever!


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Post: # 1187315Post Enrico_Misso »

Membership numbers are as dodgy as the Carlton salary cap.

We include those 3 game memberships.
Some clubs include pet memberships.

They should only count full home game (or better) memberships.


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Post: # 1187333Post plugger66 »

Enrico_Misso wrote:Membership numbers are as dodgy as the Carlton salary cap.

We include those 3 game memberships.
Some clubs include pet memberships.

They should only count full home game (or better) memberships.
The official AFL figures only use the same type of memberships for all clubs. 3 game memberships are included but they give a breakdown of all membership categories.


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Post: # 1187341Post magnifisaint »

How do Hawthorn do it?

Weren't they going to merge in 1996?


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Post: # 1187346Post samuraisaint »

Hawthorn won 5 premierships in 10 years and 8 in 20, plus were dominant over an extended period 1983 - 91, and high school kids growing up then are buying memberships - plus the Flag they pinched in 08 helps - that's how.

Same reason as why Richmond have such a large supporter base.

I expect North's membership figures to improve once kids growing up in the late 90s are old enough to buy their own memberships (which is soon)

If we had managed to pluck even the one Flag from our grand final attempts our membership tally would have improved significantly. There are a lot of St Kilda supporters around.


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Post: # 1187360Post Saints94 »

samuraisaint wrote:Hawthorn won 5 premierships in 10 years and 8 in 20, plus were dominant over an extended period 1983 - 91, and high school kids growing up then are buying memberships - plus the Flag they pinched in 08 helps - that's how.

Same reason as why Richmond have such a large supporter base.

I expect North's membership figures to improve once kids growing up in the late 90s are old enough to buy their own memberships (which is soon)

If we had managed to pluck even the one Flag from our grand final attempts our membership tally would have improved significantly. There are a lot of St Kilda supporters around.
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Enrico_Misso wrote:Membership numbers are as dodgy as the Carlton salary cap.

We include those 3 game memberships.
Some clubs include pet memberships.

They should only count full home game (or better) memberships.
So you think an interstate member who will only get to see the team once a year should not be counted as a member unless they pay for and waste a full 11 game membership ?


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