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Sliding rule
How is this going to affect players who go in head first for the ball, like Lenny for example?
Will it favour the outside type of mid more?
I don't like it as it penalises the guy at the coal face who is actually going for the ball.
What do people think of this rule and how can St Kilda exploit it? Should we hang back and wait for the opposition to slide into us?
Will it favour the outside type of mid more?
I don't like it as it penalises the guy at the coal face who is actually going for the ball.
What do people think of this rule and how can St Kilda exploit it? Should we hang back and wait for the opposition to slide into us?
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Re: Sliding rule
Stay on your feet and it doesn't affect you.
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Re: Sliding rule
Bernard Shakey wrote:Stay on your feet and it doesn't affect you.
True, but that is not always possible in a congested midfield situation. I reckon it may penalize in and under players, particularly the "under" type
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stupid rule, should only be paid if the player comes in second to the ball
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Re: Sliding rule
Solar wrote:stupid rule, should only be paid if the player comes in second to the ball
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Re: Sliding rule
I cant wait for the first time its awarded against us...
there was a perfect example on friday night against the crows, adelaide player choose to go to ground rolled over the ball and took out Davey
and I can remember quite a few complaining vigorously when Goodes would slide in boots first
there was a perfect example on friday night against the crows, adelaide player choose to go to ground rolled over the ball and took out Davey
and I can remember quite a few complaining vigorously when Goodes would slide in boots first
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nowhiskers3614 wrote:Solar wrote:stupid rule, should only be paid if the player comes in second to the ball
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Re: Sliding rule
It depends on the circumstances I guess. What about when a player has intent only for the ball and goes in low like I've seen Lenny do many times?sunsaint wrote:I can remember quite a few complaining vigorously when Goodes would slide in boots first
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bigcarl wrote:It depends on the circumstances I guess. What about when a player has intent only for the ball and goes in low like I've seen Lenny do many times?sunsaint wrote:I can remember quite a few complaining vigorously when Goodes would slide in boots first
Well if he trips a player doing that its a trip. Lenny is good enough to stand on his feet and get the ball. It should stop congestion as well.
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Re: Sliding rule
If someone's leg contacts his head under the previous rules ... which sought to protect the head ... wouldn't he be eligible for a free kick if he was just going for the ball? I think I've definitely seen it paid as a free kick.plugger66 wrote:Well if he trips a player doing that its a trip. Lenny is good enough to stand on his feet and get the ball. It should stop congestion as well.
But let's see how it goes.
A lot of these things are poorly thought through and the ramifications become obvious only when the rule is implemented.
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there is a HUGE difference between going in lowbigcarl wrote:It depends on the circumstances I guess. What about when a player has intent only for the ball and goes in low like I've seen Lenny do many times?sunsaint wrote:I can remember quite a few complaining vigorously when Goodes would slide in boots first
and going to ground..!!!
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Re: Sliding rule
Taking the controversially subjective issue of "courage" out of it for the moment, my problem with the rule is that IMHO it will often run counter to the natural instinct to be the first to possess the ball. Sometimes getting to it first will mean diving towards it before your opponent can bend down and pick it up.
At the moment I am pretty apprehensive about no longer seeing some desperate efforts to get in and under and get the ball out in favour of a bunch of players bent over like chickens in a yard trying to pick it up.
At the moment I am pretty apprehensive about no longer seeing some desperate efforts to get in and under and get the ball out in favour of a bunch of players bent over like chickens in a yard trying to pick it up.
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bigcarl wrote:If someone's leg contacts his head under the previous rules ... which sought to protect the head ... wouldn't he be eligible for a free kick if he was just going for the ball? I think I've definitely seen it paid as a free kick.plugger66 wrote:Well if he trips a player doing that its a trip. Lenny is good enough to stand on his feet and get the ball. It should stop congestion as well.
But let's see how it goes.
A lot of these things are poorly thought through and the ramifications become obvious only when the rule is implemented.
Which ones?
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Yep, that is the big concern.St.Roly wrote:Taking the controversially subjective issue of "courage" out of it for the moment, my problem with the rule is that IMHO it will often run counter to the natural instinct to be the first to possess the ball.
haha.St.Roly wrote:I am pretty apprehensive about no longer seeing some desperate efforts to get in and under and get the ball out in favour of a bunch of players bent over like chickens in a yard trying to pick it up.
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Re: Sliding rule
You didn't answer the first part of my question.plugger66 wrote:bigcarl wrote:If someone's leg contacts his head under the previous rules ... which sought to protect the head ... wouldn't he be eligible for a free kick if he was just going for the ball? I think I've definitely seen it paid as a free kick.plugger66 wrote:Well if he trips a player doing that its a trip. Lenny is good enough to stand on his feet and get the ball. It should stop congestion as well.
But let's see how it goes.
A lot of these things are poorly thought through and the ramifications become obvious only when the rule is implemented.
Which ones?
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You are allowed to answer first but yes it would have been a free. It shows how important this rule is. It stop people getting knocked out like Selwood did against us and also the Rohan injury.bigcarl wrote:You didn't answer the first part of my question.plugger66 wrote:bigcarl wrote:
If someone's leg contacts his head under the previous rules ... which sought to protect the head ... wouldn't he be eligible for a free kick if he was just going for the ball? I think I've definitely seen it paid as a free kick.
But let's see how it goes.
A lot of these things are poorly thought through and the ramifications become obvious only when the rule is implemented.
Which ones?
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Re: Sliding rule
So how can we make it work for us, other than by telling players to keep their feet?plugger66 wrote: yes it would have been a free. It shows how important this rule is. It stop people getting knocked out like Selwood did against us and also the Rohan injury.
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bigcarl wrote:So how can we make it work for us, other than by telling players to keep their feet?plugger66 wrote: yes it would have been a free. It shows how important this rule is. It stop people getting knocked out like Selwood did against us and also the Rohan injury.
No idea. What about the question I asked you.
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I agree.plugger66 wrote:No idea
Where do you want me to start? There would be a lot of examples. Often a team or player finds a way to exploit a rule that wasn't the original intention of the rule.plugger66 wrote:What about the question I asked you.
Sheedy and the 15 metre penalties time-wasting tactic.
Guerra and the rushed behind rule.
That's without really thinking about it. As I said, often the full ramifications of a rule are not immediately obvious.
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bigcarl wrote:I agree.plugger66 wrote:No idea
Where do you want me to start? There would be a lot of examples. Often a team or player finds a way to exploit a rule that wasn't the original intention of the rule.plugger66 wrote:What about the question I asked you.
Sheedy and the 15 metre penalties time-wasting tactic.
Guerra and the rushed behind rule.
That's without really thinking about it. As I said, often the full ramifications of a rule are not immediately obvious.
They are rules they changed to stop that. They werent new rules. Please give an example of a rule implemented that was exploited.
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Re: Sliding rule
Sydney in our NAB cup game. They used more than 20 interchanges in the last quarter. In the last few minutes, they were able to gain an advantage having three fresher players on the field. Fortunately, it meant nothing and we won anyway.plugger66 wrote:They are rules they changed to stop that. They werent new rules. Please give an example of a rule implemented that was exploited.
I'm sure if I thought about it for more than 30 seconds, I'd come up with some more. But you only asked for one example.
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plugger66 wrote:They are rules they changed to stop that. They werent new rules. Please give an example of a rule implemented that was exploited.
The 15 metre penalty rule must have been a new rule once. People found a way to exploit it, so they had to change it. Like I said, often the full ramifications of a rule are not always immediately apparent.
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bigcarl wrote:plugger66 wrote:They are rules they changed to stop that. They werent new rules. Please give an example of a rule implemented that was exploited.
The 15 metre penalty rule must have been a new rule once. People found a way to exploit it, so they had to change it. Like I said, often the full ramifications of a rule are not always immediately apparent.
Yep it took 20 years to exploit it. You are struggling.
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No I'm not. You asked for an example and I found one without giving it too much thought.plugger66 wrote:bigcarl wrote:plugger66 wrote:They are rules they changed to stop that. They werent new rules. Please give an example of a rule implemented that was exploited.
The 15 metre penalty rule must have been a new rule once. People found a way to exploit it, so they had to change it. Like I said, often the full ramifications of a rule are not always immediately apparent.
Yep it took 20 years to exploit it. You are struggling.