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Post: # 1389675Post Con Gorozidis »

If we end up with two guys from this list Ill be very happy (Ill also take 1 + Adams happily :D :D )

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-22/a ... -prospects


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Post: # 1389682Post mr six o'clock »

I just want 2 guys with excellent skills who will play the next 15 years for us !
Both winning multiple flags and brownlows on the way .

Is that too much to ask for ?


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Post: # 1389683Post Bluthy »

Its like picking out new toys for christmas isn't it (6 months later we'll be bored with them, they'll be in the corner broken and we'll wish we'd got the mega-transformer instead). I know Scott has flagged we need classy mids but do you think we would we look at going for a defender maybe with 2 or 3 pick, someone to groom as a creative player from the back. We are going to be losing Fisher, Gilbo, Gwilt, Dempster sooner rather than later. That's a lot of rebound and defensive class gone. Roberton is tough as nails but not sure how well he breaks the lines.


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Post: # 1389687Post Con Gorozidis »

If we end up with a really good kid at pick 3 plus Adams Bruce and Michie we are well on the road to recovery.


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Post: # 1389688Post Stillwaiting »

I really hope we don't trade pick 3, which I don't think we will. Be great if we can get 2 in the top 20 through trade 10 through trade but not lijely


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Post: # 1389784Post roskilde »

Pretty short draft this year.

I know there's a chance for more growth but I'm not seeing anyone in that golden 194 to 198 size.


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Post: # 1389786Post falka »

roskilde wrote:Pretty short draft this year.

I know there's a chance for more growth but I'm not seeing anyone in that golden 194 to 198 size.
Hence the interest in Bruce.


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Post: # 1389793Post gringo »

I really like Scharenberg as I think he is just the right size and ability to slot straight in. He and Colqhoun tore it up last year at the carnival and he was under age. Then Billings for me then if we can get a late first round from a trade out i would want Bontempelli, Freeman or Kelly.


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Post: # 1389802Post lloyd21 »

Agree Gringo had a beer with someone close to club apparently they want Josh Kelly at this stage hope he is wrong .

Can't believe the negative on Scharenburg myself perfect size , Mundy Watson Kennedy ? Essendon have paid $800k a year.
for Goddard who plays the exact way back ,middle,forward.

Anyway see what happens .


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Post: # 1389856Post ljpoyz »

Know a bloke who works in recruiting at another club, reckons Kelly is the pick of the draft. Rates Scharenburg above Aish but reckons they top 4-5 are all pretty close.

lloyd21 wrote:Agree Gringo had a beer with someone close to club apparently they want Josh Kelly at this stage hope he is wrong .

Can't believe the negative on Scharenburg myself perfect size , Mundy Watson Kennedy ? Essendon have paid $800k a year.
for Goddard who plays the exact way back ,middle,forward.

Anyway see what happens .


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Post: # 1389863Post Con Gorozidis »

Gee if we get Kelly I hope it's because he's the third best prospect not just because he is a local lad.


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I'm hearing Josh Kelly is the guy we will choose with pick 3. We rate him as the best midfielder in the draft and believe theres a good chance he will be available with Boyd a certain pick 1 and the highly rated SA kids on Melbourne's radar.

The Cats and Melb to a lesser extent (all over Hogan) made a number of enquiries about him in last years mini draft so we're not alone in rating him very highly.

I've got my reservations about his inside game but what he does have is elite speed and endurance and a deadly left boot. He's in the Stephen Hill category.


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Post: # 1389891Post gringo »

Bluthy wrote:Its like picking out new toys for christmas isn't it (6 months later we'll be bored with them, they'll be in the corner broken and we'll wish we'd got the mega-transformer instead). I know Scott has flagged we need classy mids but do you think we would we look at going for a defender maybe with 2 or 3 pick, someone to groom as a creative player from the back. We are going to be losing Fisher, Gilbo, Gwilt, Dempster sooner rather than later. That's a lot of rebound and defensive class gone. Roberton is tough as nails but not sure how well he breaks the lines.

He is surprisingly good Roberton. Watch him next year, he runs and carries a lot. He had a Little Athletics background and looks slow but never gets caught. He just needs a wave of running backs along side him for the future.


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Post: # 1389908Post Munga »

Is it a deep draft this year? There have been some shocking years and some great ones. I've got some draft stats I should dig up.


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roskilde wrote:Pretty short draft this year.

I know there's a chance for more growth but I'm not seeing anyone in that golden 194 to 198 size.
Yes, lots of midfielders this year. They are saying already that there will be plenty of quality KPP's next year. We need to be patient !!


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Post: # 1389915Post matrix »

there was a worry with the bergs feet i was told
had a slight pidge foot thing i think
havent see him playing for a few weeks
there was talk of getting it fixed
someone i know who is a family member said they didnt really see much point
was playing fine as it is!


not sure if he did or didt
did he get a gig this week??


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Post: # 1389920Post gringo »

matrix wrote:there was a worry with the bergs feet i was told
had a slight pidge foot thing i think
havent see him playing for a few weeks
there was talk of getting it fixed
someone i know who is a family member said they didnt really see much point
was playing fine as it is!


not sure if he did or didt
did he get a gig this week??

I haven't seen much of Scharenbergs form this year and am basing it on last year and the odd report. He certainly goes okay as is. He's a great size to just walk in and play from round one. Sounds like we are into kelly in a big way anyhow. He could be a gun or a disaster- i would have taken him at about 10 behind some of the guys that are around him myself but they would know more than me.


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Post: # 1389921Post Old Mate »

Munga wrote:Is it a deep draft this year? There have been some shocking years and some great ones. I've got some draft stats I should dig up.
Different recruiters and experts rate the talent differently however the general consensus is it's an above average draft (better than last year) with a good range of inside midfielders and depth however overall lacking speed and height. James Aish and Josh Kelly the best two mids, Tom Boyd and Cameron McCarthy the two standout key forwards and Matt Sharenberg the most versatile and complete footballer in the draft. There does seem to be a bit of a gap between the top two (Boyd and Aish) and then Sharenberg and Kelly and then another 6 or so you could put a blanket over (Billings, Crouch and Sheed, plus a few others).


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Old Mate wrote:
Munga wrote:Is it a deep draft this year? There have been some shocking years and some great ones. I've got some draft stats I should dig up.
Different recruiters and experts rate the talent differently however the general consensus is it's an above average draft (better than last year) with a good range of inside midfielders and depth however overall lacking speed and height. James Aish and Josh Kelly the best two mids, Tom Boyd and Cameron McCarthy the two standout key forwards and Matt Sharenberg the most versatile and complete footballer in the draft. There does seem to be a bit of a gap between the top two (Boyd and Aish) and then Sharenberg and Kelly and then another 6 or so you could put a blanket over (Billings, Crouch and Sheed, plus a few others).
Good analysis, would it be fair to say that the talent drops away dramatically after say, 25, but chuck a blanket over say, 8-25? Thats my understanding of it.


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Post: # 1389989Post Old Mate »

On paper this year certainly has a better top 25 with plenty of quality big bodied midfielders likely to be available in the mid 20's. Perhaps it drops off after that however I suspect some decent talent will be available up to around pick 40. After that the picks become highly speculative.


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ljpoyz wrote:Know a bloke who works in recruiting at another club, reckons Kelly is the pick of the draft. Rates Scharenburg above Aish but reckons they top 4-5 are all pretty close.

lloyd21 wrote:Agree Gringo had a beer with someone close to club apparently they want Josh Kelly at this stage hope he is wrong .

Can't believe the negative on Scharenburg myself perfect size , Mundy Watson Kennedy ? Essendon have paid $800k a year.
for Goddard who plays the exact way back ,middle,forward.

Anyway see what happens .
Scharenburg sounds pretty good based on descriptions.
But I see him as being a bit like Goddard, in that he's a player that will be good to have, rather than a player you need.
StKilda have too many clear needs at the moment. While Scharenburg may end up playing all over the ground, he's very likely to start of playing in the backline, so at the Saints he's be competing for a spot where we actually have a few options.
I'd have actually thought he'd be a good pickup for GWS , who don't really need another tall forward or gun midfielder. But they'll probably get Boyd ( or trade the pick ) anyway for the same reason people climb mount Everest or a dog licks its balls.


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Post: # 1390028Post lloyd21 »

Just would like to point out a little something.

Patrick Dangerfield was a half back flanker/back pocket most of his time at Geelong Falcons in TAC.

However have been told that if Kelly available by people close to the club he is the one they want.


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Post: # 1390031Post Old Mate »

I'm hearing the same Lloyd. Kelly will be the one we select as long as he's available and Boyd isn't. He's rated higher than Aish and Sharenberg by our recruiters.


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Post: # 1390034Post saintspremiers »

If whoever we pick up with pick 3 is a dud then Pelican goes.

Guys in the know, who is on our radar for pick 19 ie second round pick?


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