For he's (not) a Jolly good fellow?

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For he's (not) a Jolly good fellow?

Post: # 1421764Post Sainternist »

Was a tad surprised we (nor any other club) didn't take Jolly in the draft this morning. Would have gone cheap, we'd have an experienced ruckman to show the younger talls (Hickey, Longer and Stanley) the ropes and potentially he could have evolved into a ruck coach for us a la Steven King a few years back.

Interested to know the main reasons why we gave the option of picking him up a swerve. The most obvious reason would be that he wouldn't be a long term acquisition. Do we now have a youth policy going in full swing much like the Stan Alves era?

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I'm glad we didn't pick him up. I personally don't like him and believe if we have a good ruck coach, we simply don't need him. On a broader note to including other clubs, maybe his head is too big to be a rookie.


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Post: # 1421774Post Teflon »

millarsaint wrote:I'm glad we didn't pick him up. I personally don't like him and believe if we have a good ruck coach, we simply don't need him. On a broader note to including other clubs, maybe his head is too big to be a rookie.
Hear , hear.

I recall his comments along lines of smashing Kosi in the ruck cause he's amateur etc - of course Kosi was, of course Jolly was correct .... but the way the knob said it left me thinking what an ass clown

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Post: # 1421778Post evertonfc »

Since getting Longer, I've warmed to the fact that we don't need Jolly.

Hickey has booked another year of development and I'd like to see Rhys Stanley pinch hit in there as well.


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Post: # 1421780Post st_Trav_ofWA »

with jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 ... without jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 .... much rather have a punt on a younger bloke in hope we unearth a gem then go with an old loke who in his last games of AFL looked shot ...


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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:with jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 ... without jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 .... much rather have a punt on a younger bloke in hope we unearth a gem then go with an old loke who in his last games of AFL looked shot ...

Couldnt agree anymore. Thank goodness we didnt get him but that has nothing to do with his ego.


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Post: # 1421812Post Rosco »

his ego is just the icing.


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Post: # 1421814Post dragit »

There just aren't enough spots on the list to have blokes that are primarily there for coaching purposes.


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Post: # 1421816Post bobmurray »

He'll have to hang out with didak and they can talk about what ifs.....


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Post: # 1421817Post bergsone »

Have we got a ruck coach ?


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Post: # 1421820Post SaintPav »

Teflon wrote:
millarsaint wrote:I'm glad we didn't pick him up. I personally don't like him and believe if we have a good ruck coach, we simply don't need him. On a broader note to including other clubs, maybe his head is too big to be a rookie.
Hear , hear.

I recall his comments along lines of smashing Kosi in the ruck cause he's amateur etc - of course Kosi was, of course Jolly was correct .... but the way the knob said it left me thinking what an ass clown

See ya Darren - flog

I don't hold grudges but I haven't liked him since....birth.
Sounds like he was joking about Kosi.

Kosi held his own in the ruck when Gardner went down in the drawn GF. Played pretty well actually and would have been remembered differently had we got over the line but then so would have Mini, Eddy, Peake etc etc.


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Post: # 1421825Post dragit »

bobmurray wrote:He'll have to hang out with didak and they can talk about what ifs.....
... and premierships .


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Post: # 1421827Post bobmurray »

dragit wrote:
bobmurray wrote:He'll have to hang out with didak and they can talk about what ifs.....
... and premierships .
Singular, they won one and then fell in a heap


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Post: # 1421829Post dragit »

Jolly has more flags than our club.


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Post: # 1421830Post BigMart »

Many morons have won premierships

Btw

Can I call him a moron now he's never going to be a saint?


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Post: # 1421835Post saint6709 »

plugger66 wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:with jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 ... without jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 .... much rather have a punt on a younger bloke in hope we unearth a gem then go with an old loke who in his last games of AFL looked shot ...

Couldnt agree anymore. Thank goodness we didnt get him but that has nothing to do with his ego.
I think we will be better than that


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Post: # 1421836Post dragit »

BigMart wrote:Many morons have won premierships

Btw

Can I call him a moron now he's never going to be a saint?
Yep, unless he comes as a coach, then he'll be a champ again.


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Post: # 1421842Post saintspremiers »

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:with jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 ... without jolly we finish bottom 4 in 2014 .... much rather have a punt on a younger bloke in hope we unearth a gem then go with an old loke who in his last games of AFL looked shot ...
Agree. We finally have rid ourselves of Kosi who was gifted 2 bonus seasons. It's now time not to carry old folks who are questionable in talent.

Mind you, we still have TDL, Sipposs & Milera who are all poor but at least are youngish and may have some value eventually.


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Post: # 1421846Post bobmurray »

dragit wrote:Jolly has more flags than our club.
Our club is not a club we can brag about, hence Jolly is still a flog


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Post: # 1421849Post PADDLEPOP1001 »

And he has a bung knee ,would have been lucky to play 5 games!


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Post: # 1421856Post Enrico_Misso »

Better off without Jolley


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Post: # 1421859Post Dr Spaceman »

Heard that idiot Denham have another crack at the Saints on SEN this morning.

Discussing where Jolly may end up Denham mentioned us but now said it would be Esssendon or nothing because "St Kilda stuffed up". Poor communications with his management following Watters departure apparently.

Maybe we just lost interst in him. Maybe Watters was the one pushing for him. Maybe Longer coming on board meant we no longer needed him? Who knows?

But if we "stuffed up" then I'm glad we "stuffed up". Like many others I didn't want him at Seaford.

Anyway, move on Denham :roll:


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Post: # 1421861Post plugger66 »

Dr Spaceman wrote:Heard that idiot Denham have another crack at the Saints on SEN this morning.

Discussing where Jolly may end up Denham mentioned us but now said it would be Esssendon or nothing because "St Kilda stuffed up". Poor communications with his management following Watters departure apparently.

Maybe we just lost interst in him. Maybe Watters was the one pushing for him. Maybe Longer coming on board meant we no longer needed him? Who knows?

But if we "stuffed up" then I'm glad we "stuffed up". Like many others I didn't want him at Seaford.

Anyway, move on Denham :roll:

That was exactly how I thought. Wish someone would ring him tomorrow and ask if all other 17 clubs stuffed up or were all 18 smart enough to say no.


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Post: # 1421873Post saintbrat »

Club was still deciding as early as this morning.....
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-27/j ... st-a-saint
It was Weller who won out, after impressing with his application over the past three weeks while training with the Saints.

"While Maverick is a much younger player than Darren, both would have complemented needs on our playing list and ultimately we felt that Maverick suited our needs in a more immediate capacity than Darren, having brought in Hickey last year and Longer this year," Pelchen said.

"We felt that we want to give them every opportunity to play at senior level consistently and hence why we made the decision we did
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Post: # 1421877Post ChelseaGuy »

Happy Saints made the call to develop the young talent. As noted by others. jolly adds little to the long term success of the club.


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