We desperately need a crumbing forward

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We desperately need a crumbing forward

Post: # 1486316Post White Winmar »

Tonight's performance again demonstrated how much we miss Milney. We have struggled badly when the ball has hit the deck in our forward fifty and at the moment, we don't seem to have anyone who could fit into the role. I know some will nominate Jack Billings as the obvious candidate, but I see him developing into a goal kicking midfielder.

I'm disappointed that Terry Milera hasn't been able to fill the role, as I believe he has the skill and pace to do so. For some reason he just hasn't grasped the opportunity, and time maybe running out for him. I wonder if Saad is in the pelican's future plans, or if he intends to trade one in. Does anyone know who fits the bill and might be available at the end of the season?


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Reckon we need a silky outside mid too


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Post: # 1486326Post ShanghaiSaint »

agree. Milne has been a massive loss...

Play the Minch, for the last games of the year he's shown a bit... if he fails bye but i think he has something... Saad a chance to come back next year?


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Post: # 1486333Post Bluthy »

Templeton gave us a lot of energy and forward pressure in the early games. Minchington could have tried to stake his claim to that spot but having the timing to rove packs and be a goal sneak is something you either have or don't.


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Re: We desperately need a crumbing forward

Post: # 1486335Post dragit »

SainterK wrote:Reckon we need a silky outside mid too
Markworth might be this if he's good enough and gets his body right.

Not sure about crumbling forwards, I just think we need better, smarter delivery. Maybe we need more tackling pressure too from Saunders?

Saad is worth a shot IMO.


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Post: # 1486338Post ShanghaiSaint »

Jimmy Webster as a mid runner? he's injured atm yeh?


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Post: # 1486340Post Scollop »

SainterK wrote:Reckon we need a silky outside mid or two
Edited for accuracy :wink:


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Re: We desperately need a crumbing forward

Post: # 1486342Post Saintlester »

Would be nice to have but Milne is a once in a lifetime small forward. You make do, Curren was OK tonight and I think can work. Don't be distracted our biggest need is MIDFIELDERS, MIDFIELDERS, MIDFIELDERS. The next 2 drafts should draft as many mids as possible. We can muddle through with forwards until ready for a real crack but can't muddle through with sub standard midfield.


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Post: # 1486348Post Toy Saint »

Saintlester wrote:Would be nice to have but Milne is a once in a lifetime small forward. You make do, Curren was OK tonight and I think can work. Don't be distracted our biggest need is MIDFIELDERS, MIDFIELDERS, MIDFIELDERS. The next 2 drafts should draft as many mids as possible. We can muddle through with forwards until ready for a real crack but can't muddle through with sub standard midfield.
Reckon we need to draft a bunch of skilled midfleiders, they can rest up forward


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Post: # 1486356Post Jacks Back »

I reckon Minch can really play as that crumbing forward and needs to be given a chance.


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Post: # 1486360Post SainterK »

Eli...

That's enough, and as others have said....flashy mids can rest forward.


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Post: # 1486372Post Scollop »

The pelican needs to find young talent with silky skills and with a good head on their shoulders and the footy club needs to provide an environment for them to flourish. Hopefully we can emulate Geelong...plus we have the bonus of Billings last year and another top 4 pick at the end of this year

Steven Motlop pick 39 (2008 draft), and Mitch Duncan pick 28 (2009 draft) and Allen Christensen pick 40 (2009 draft), Cameron Guthrie -pick 23 (2010 draft), and Horlin-Smith- pick 37 (2010 draft)


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Post: # 1486390Post Junction Oval »

I would like to see more of Minchington - there is some class there. He needs more game time to develop further.


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Post: # 1486392Post dragit »

Scollop wrote:The pelican needs to find young talent with silky skills and with a good head on their shoulders and the footy club needs to provide an environment for them to flourish. Hopefully we can emulate Geelong...plus we have the bonus of Billings last year and another top 4 pick at the end of this year

Steven Motlop pick 39 (2008 draft), and Mitch Duncan pick 28 (2009 draft) and Allen Christensen pick 40 (2009 draft), Cameron Guthrie -pick 23 (2010 draft), and Horlin-Smith- pick 37 (2010 draft)
Not all roses for the cats, I hope we don't blow this many early picks..,
2008
Pick 15 Mitch brown
Pick 33 tom gillies
2009
Pick 17 Daniel Menzel
2011
Pick 32 Joel hamling
Pick 34 Shane kersten


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Re: We desperately need a crumbing forward

Post: # 1486394Post Junction Oval »

Yep. As Dragit pointed out, it can be a game of hits & misses, but the "pluses" need to override the misses, or you end up where we are - at the bottom :(


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Re: We desperately need a crumbing forward

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We need to learn how to lock the ball in the forward line. Just doesn't look like enough scrapping at ground level and the ball rebounds way too easily.


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We need many players in many positions but mids with run would be my first area to look at. Is Petracca that type? Not so sure. We have to many Lennys, Weller, Ross, Curran types. We need a new Joey or two.


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plugger66 wrote:We need many players in many positions but mids with run would be my first area to look at. Is Petracca that type? Not so sure. We have to many Lennys, Weller, Ross, Curran types. We need a new Joey or two.
Agree!

No more stocky inside types.

Need more similar to Elliott, Wingard etc


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Re: We desperately need a crumbing forward

Post: # 1486424Post st.byron »

A bit off topic, but Milney is currently leading the Bendigo League goalkicking with 73 from 15 games. Kicked 8 yesterday. 9 the week before. Getting their money's worth. He might even get to play in a premiership.


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Post: # 1486428Post dragit »

st.byron wrote:A bit off topic, but Milney is currently leading the Bendigo League goalkicking with 73 from 15 games. Kicked 8 yesterday. 9 the week before. Getting their money's worth. He might even get to play in a premiership.
His trial starts this month from memory?


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st.byron wrote:A bit off topic, but Milney is currently leading the Bendigo League goalkicking with 73 from 15 games. Kicked 8 yesterday. 9 the week before. Getting their money's worth. He might even get to play in a premiership.

I think he is someone like 4k a game but it looks like he is providing every bit of that and maybe more. Good on you Milney. You are a star.


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plugger66 wrote:
st.byron wrote:A bit off topic, but Milney is currently leading the Bendigo League goalkicking with 73 from 15 games. Kicked 8 yesterday. 9 the week before. Getting their money's worth. He might even get to play in a premiership.

I think he is someone like 4k a game but it looks like he is providing every bit of that and maybe more. Good on you Milney. You are a star.

Yep. One of my all time favourite players and one of the best small forwards of all time.


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Post: # 1486471Post samuraisaint »

Getting flogged in outside run. No real pace apart from Stanley in the entire side (and Eli).


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Post: # 1486510Post ralphsmith »

Milne was a once in a generation player. Lucky he played at the saints, feels so empty in the forwardline without that freakish little goal sneak.


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SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:We need many players in many positions but mids with run would be my first area to look at. Is Petracca that type? Not so sure. We have too many Lennys, Weller, Ross, Curran types. We need a new Joey or two.

You nailed it..our problem is too many c/d grade mids ....If Petracca is considered as being highly thought of "A grade" then we needs these types as well as pace.

Is Petracca considered slow? I thought he was quite quick but not express. Tested the same as roo I thought over 20m


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