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Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732410Post Saintmatt »

Free kick counts WC v. STK when played in WA.
2015
23-6 (WC)

2016
24-13 (WC)

2017
23-8 (WC)

2018
25-11

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Re: Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732427Post Enrico_Misso »

So will Richo / Lethlean / Summers take a stand and demand an explanation?

Or will we just roll over like pathetic pansies and just cop it yet again?


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Post: # 1732429Post CURLY »

I see no problem the umpires are doing exactly what the AFL want and that’s keep WC winning.


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Re: Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732431Post Winmar »

That's quite a pattern. Pathetic. Particularly when they make decisions like that holding the ball against Sinclair about 15m out.


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Post: # 1732433Post mullet »

clearly we are very undisciplined when we play the west coast eagles


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Re: Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732437Post Toy Saint »

We may as well bring the vasaline every time we come to Perth. The umpires are doing what the AFL wants and if we dare complain we will be punished.


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Post: # 1732440Post saintkev »

We have a bad habit of hanging on to opposition players when flying for marks or trying to spoil. A little tug of the jumper here a grab of the arm there. It’s unnecessary and sure to be pinged in the West where the Eagles are pretty well cosied up to the umpires. A lot of iffy ones went West Coasts’ way. Sometimes we make it too easy for umpires to decide against us.


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Post: # 1732490Post Sainternist »

#freekickwestcoast :evil:


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Post: # 1732496Post SydneySainter »

saintkev wrote: Sun 03 Jun 2018 12:14am We have a bad habit of hanging on to opposition players when flying for marks or trying to spoil. A little tug of the jumper here a grab of the arm there. It’s unnecessary and sure to be pinged in the West where the Eagles are pretty well cosied up to the umpires. A lot of iffy ones went West Coasts’ way. Sometimes we make it too easy for umpires to decide against us.
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Post: # 1732513Post Yorkeys »

Maybe why Perth sides have failed in the big dance. Come to the MCG after home finals, don't get the usual gifts and become confused. WC and Freo should ask umpires boss to have umps use level playing field approach occasionally to get the feel of it.


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Re: Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732517Post kell »

I switched off. The umpiring was appalling. It is blight on the game. It is not possible to promote AFL in such conditions.


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Re: Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732519Post st.byron »

I posted this in July 2016. Nothing has changed. Biggest travesty in the AFL.

In the last ten years West Coast Eagles :

First or second in 'Free Kicks For" every year except one when they were fourth.
Last or second last in "Free Kicks Against" every year bar one. The least free kicks against an astonishing six times in ten years. What are the odds in an 18 team competition?

And those stats are for all games. Imagine how it looks if you only take their home games into account.

This from the Hun last year :

"The Eagles have won a staggering 349 more free kicks than they have conceded in the past five years — a differential three times bigger than their nearest rival.

But it’s at Subiaco, at the aptly nicknamed “House of Pain”, where West Coast gets the biggest advantage from whistleblowers.

Since the start of 2011, the Eagles have lost the free kick count in only four of 46 matches on home soil against interstate sides — a success rate of 91 per cent.

Incredibly, West Coast is also one of only two clubs to win more free kicks than it loses on the road, where it boasts a +63 free kick differential."

The umpires boss at the time, Wayne Campbell when asked about it said,

“The answer is, I don’t know. There’s just got to be a combination of things. Perhaps it’s the style of play, the crowd, winning games or that home sides win more than they lose. They must be disciplined in either not giving away free kicks or getting free kicks because it happens away from home as well.”


That's it Wayne. They're disciplined. Nothing to do with the umpires being intimidated by the crowd.

No way there's a massive issue with the bias towards WCE at home. Move along. Nothing to see. Jaysus.....look at these stats.


Free kick differential stats for 2011 - 2015 :

West Coast Eagles +349

Carlton +112

Port Adelaide +107

North Melbourne +76

Adelaide Crows +48

Richmond +37

Collingwood +17

Western Bulldogs-8

Geelong Cats -23

GWS Giants -25

Sydney Swans -26

Hawthorn-35

Fremantle-56

Essendon-64

Melbourne -83

Gold Coast Suns -106

St Kilda -137

Brisbane Lions -183


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Re: Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732521Post kosifantutti »

st.byron wrote: Sun 03 Jun 2018 9:22am I posted this in July 2016. Nothing has changed. Biggest travesty in the AFL.

In the last ten years West Coast Eagles :

First or second in 'Free Kicks For" every year except one when they were fourth.
Last or second last in "Free Kicks Against" every year bar one. The least free kicks against an astonishing six times in ten years. What are the odds in an 18 team competition?

And those stats are for all games. Imagine how it looks if you only take their home games into account.

This from the Hun last year :

"The Eagles have won a staggering 349 more free kicks than they have conceded in the past five years — a differential three times bigger than their nearest rival.

But it’s at Subiaco, at the aptly nicknamed “House of Pain”, where West Coast gets the biggest advantage from whistleblowers.

Since the start of 2011, the Eagles have lost the free kick count in only four of 46 matches on home soil against interstate sides — a success rate of 91 per cent.

Incredibly, West Coast is also one of only two clubs to win more free kicks than it loses on the road, where it boasts a +63 free kick differential."

The umpires boss at the time, Wayne Campbell when asked about it said,

“The answer is, I don’t know. There’s just got to be a combination of things. Perhaps it’s the style of play, the crowd, winning games or that home sides win more than they lose. They must be disciplined in either not giving away free kicks or getting free kicks because it happens away from home as well.”


That's it Wayne. They're disciplined. Nothing to do with the umpires being intimidated by the crowd.

No way there's a massive issue with the bias towards WCE at home. Move along. Nothing to see. Jaysus.....look at these stats.


Free kick differential stats for 2011 - 2015 :

West Coast Eagles +349

Carlton +112

Port Adelaide +107

North Melbourne +76

Adelaide Crows +48

Richmond +37

Collingwood +17

Western Bulldogs-8

Geelong Cats -23

GWS Giants -25

Sydney Swans -26

Hawthorn-35

Fremantle-56

Essendon-64

Melbourne -83

Gold Coast Suns -106

St Kilda -137

Brisbane Lions -183
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Re: Free kicks v WCE

Post: # 1732666Post saynta »

Toy Saint wrote: Sun 03 Jun 2018 12:12am We may as well bring the vasaline every time we come to Perth. The umpires are doing what the AFL wants and if we dare complain we will be punished.
Yeah but, being bent over and coping it up the but from maggots one of which was a female maggot is a just a wee bit too much for me.

Especially when she went around shaking hands with wet toast players after the game.


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