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Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808178Post B.M »

Seriously!

A lower level Ruckman, former part time Ruck coach is now an AFL Forwards coach.

How many games at the level, how many games as a Forward at the level?!

This is a long with a former Ruckman being the Mids coach

And a former gun mid being the Forward coach?!

Here’s a thought

Have experts in their area of expertise?!!


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808183Post WellardSaint »

Skrobalak was supposed to be a really really good player...
In the Amateurs.
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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808188Post saintsRrising »

It is only a temporary appointment for 6 weeks.

Once the new head coach is appointed they will no doubt review all the assistants.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

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Can you explain why a three time Best and Fairest midfielder and stoppage expert who coached the midfield in a triple premiership team,
Was given a job as an assistant coach... to coach the forward line?!

Are we in the business of putting coaches where they are suited best or are we up-skilling them by giving them jobs they’ve never had?! To learn?!

FFS this is not the TAC Cup, this is the real deal, and we have coaches learning new roles on the job?! Fair Dinkum!

Lade should have been a Ruck coach

Ratten the midfield coach

And a proper Forward coach running our offence


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808207Post tony74 »

Absolutely knows his stuff. No surprise the advancement of Marshall. Maybe you might all just wait and see.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808220Post satchmo »

tony74 wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:05pm Absolutely knows his stuff. No surprise the advancement of Marshall. Maybe you might all just wait and see.
That's good to hear.

Looks like the vibe is pretty upbeat down there, Tony. Will be interesting to see how it translates to on-field performance.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808226Post B.M »

He probably does, as a Ruck coach

He was a Ruckman after all

Now he is given a position where he has to be in the 18 best forward coaches in the AFL having never done it!

Why we needed a Ruck coach, when we have a 200 game premiership Ruckman on our coaching staff is ridiculous.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

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B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:29pm He probably does, as a Ruck coach

He was a Ruckman after all

Now he is given a position where he has to be in the 18 best forward coaches in the AFL having never done it!

Why we needed a Ruck coach, when we have a 200 game premiership Ruckman on our coaching staff is ridiculous.
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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808230Post HighettMan »

B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:21pm Seriously!

A lower level Ruckman, former part time Ruck coach is now an AFL Forwards coach.

How many games at the level, how many games as a Forward at the level?!

This is a long with a former Ruckman being the Mids coach

And a former gun mid being the Forward coach?!

Here’s a thought

Have experts in their area of expertise?!!
You are a posting contradiction. Don't you argue that coaches don't influence how you personally play. You also strongly argue it's simple game and I couldn't agree more so surely a midfielder can teach a forward to run and jump at the ball just like a forward could teach a mid to see ball get ball and kick it towards the goals and or a forward.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808234Post Linton Lodger »

tony74 wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:05pm Absolutely knows his stuff. No surprise the advancement of Marshall. Maybe you might all just wait and see.
Are there going to be many or any structural or positional changes Tony?


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808237Post BarryGrogan »

B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:52pm Can you explain why a three time Best and Fairest midfielder and stoppage expert who coached the midfield in a triple premiership team,
Was given a job as an assistant coach... to coach the forward line?!

Are we in the business of putting coaches where they are suited best or are we up-skilling them by giving them jobs they’ve never had?! To learn?!

FFS this is not the TAC Cup, this is the real deal, and we have coaches learning new roles on the job?! Fair Dinkum!

Lade should have been a Ruck coach

Ratten the midfield coach

And a proper Forward coach running our offence
Ummm, weren't you the dude that was adamant that a change of coach won't do anything?

Now you're highlighting a poor Cho decision that will be rectified by him being sacked.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808238Post tony74 »

Linton Lodger wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:57pm
tony74 wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:05pm Absolutely knows his stuff. No surprise the advancement of Marshall. Maybe you might all just wait and see.
Are there going to be many or any structural or positional changes Tony?
No, he’s only really had them for two sessions. They will move it quicker though, more on instinct


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B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:52pm Can you explain why a three time Best and Fairest midfielder and stoppage expert who coached the midfield in a triple premiership team,
Was given a job as an assistant coach... to coach the forward line?!

Are we in the business of putting coaches where they are suited best or are we up-skilling them by giving them jobs they’ve never had?! To learn?!

FFS this is not the TAC Cup, this is the real deal, and we have coaches learning new roles on the job?! Fair Dinkum!

Lade should have been a Ruck coach

Ratten the midfield coach

And a proper Forward coach running our offence
So if Ratten should be the midfield coach... who would you have as senior coach??


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808240Post supersaints2 »

B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:52pm Can you explain why a three time Best and Fairest midfielder and stoppage expert who coached the midfield in a triple premiership team,
Was given a job as an assistant coach... to coach the forward line?!

Are we in the business of putting coaches where they are suited best or are we up-skilling them by giving them jobs they’ve never had?! To learn?!

FFS this is not the TAC Cup, this is the real deal, and we have coaches learning new roles on the job?! Fair Dinkum!

Lade should have been a Ruck coach

Ratten the midfield coach

And a proper Forward coach running our offence
So if Ratten should be the midfield coach... who would you have as senior coach??


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808242Post darylcowie »

I would have thought Hamill or Brereton were more qualified/suited to this role than Skrobalak or Ratten for that matter!


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808250Post bigcarl »

tony74 wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:05pm Absolutely knows his stuff. No surprise the advancement of Marshall. Maybe you might all just wait and see.

Good to hear. Hopefully we can start kicking more than eight goals


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808253Post saynta »

B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 7:21pm Seriously!

A lower level Ruckman, former part time Ruck coach is now an AFL Forwards coach.

How many games at the level, how many games as a Forward at the level?!

This is a long with a former Ruckman being the Mids coach

And a former gun mid being the Forward coach?!

Here’s a thought

Have experts in their area of expertise?!!
Actually he was Dandy's coach last year. Good young coach. Tony as usual is spot on.
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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808254Post oldie60 »

We are not alone. Have a look at some of the following. Collingwood - Brenton Sanderson. ex half back, Geelong, - James Rahilly 11 goals in 90 games. Port power - Nathan Basset played a defender. Most of these were not specialists in their respective lines.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808255Post B.M »

I didn’t say coaches have no impact, of course they do, particularly line coaches who work directly with their line players. Head coaches influence how well the line coaches coach.
And the head coach can make strategic moves on match day, to effect the game.

They just don’t have the absolute influence over results, and the talent level of a team is far more important.

I’ll give you an extreme example
If I coached an AFL team against Al Clarkson coaching a VFL team, I would get a win over Al. A 4 time premiership coach.

When two teams are closely matched, the coach can definitely be the deciding factor.

Which team that we were closely matched with this year, did we lose to?

Tony, I’m sure you’re a lovely guy, and I like hearing your positive news updates, but I reckon if Satan was appointed to coach at StK, you’d be convinced that it was a great move and tell us how fantastic he is in the role.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808257Post SaintPav »

tony74 wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:13pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:57pm
tony74 wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 8:05pm Absolutely knows his stuff. No surprise the advancement of Marshall. Maybe you might all just wait and see.
Are there going to be many or any structural or positional changes Tony?
No, he’s only really had them for two sessions. They will move it quicker though, more on instinct
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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808258Post saynta »

B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:31pm I didn’t say coaches have no impact, of course they do, particularly line coaches who work directly with their line players. Head coaches influence how well the line coaches coach.
And the head coach can make strategic moves on match day, to effect the game.

They just don’t have the absolute influence over results, and the talent level of a team is far more important.

I’ll give you an extreme example
If I coached an AFL team against Al Clarkson coaching a VFL team, I would get a win over Al. A 4 time premiership coach.

When two teams are closely matched, the coach can definitely be the deciding factor.

Which team that we were closely matched with this year, did we lose to?

Tony, I’m sure you’re a lovely guy, and I like hearing your positive news updates, but I reckon if Satan was appointed to coach at StK, you’d be convinced that it was a great move and tell us how fantastic he is in the role.
Ratten in his press conference also stated that Skrobolak was a very good young coach.

He was also responsible for Pierce's improvement last year.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808260Post B.M »

Dandy’s coach?? They play Div 3 SFL

He was of course Frankston’s coach in the VFL who finished last, which was predicted so no slight on him.

Before that, he was a part time ruck coach at StK

Before that he was at TAC cup level as a coach I believe? Western Jets?

I reckon he may well be a good coach. However, he does not have the experience or expertise to be an AFL forward line coach... having never played or coached that line


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

Post: # 1808270Post saynta »

B.M wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2019 9:37pm Dandy’s coach?? They play Div 3 SFL

He was of course Frankston’s coach in the VFL who finished last, which was predicted so no slight on him.

Before that, he was a part time ruck coach at StK

Before that he was at TAC cup level as a coach I believe? Western Jets?

I reckon he may well be a good coach. However, he does not have the experience or expertise to be an AFL forward line coach... having never played or coached that line
Sorry.... :oops: :oops: :oops: I meant Frankston. But hey one crap Melbourne suburb is the same as another isn't it.

He was still a senior coach last year.


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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

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I reckon Pierce and Marshall can take most of the credit for their own improvements.

Pierce was a 6th year AFL system ruckmen, starved of opportunity due to playing second fiddle to Longer, Hickey or Holmes in the VFL. He finally got a crack and predictably did ok, he was B&F at Frankston, but remember how poor Frankston were and he was the only player in their team with AFL experience, and he was training full time with an AFL Club.
Pierce has shown to be average at league level since.

If anyone watched Marshall the last two years, his talent was obvious, all he needed was an AFL body and tank. 2m tall, could run, jump, Mark well, kick well and could find the pill. He had to sit behind Hickey in the VFL, and still looked promising as a fwd.
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Re: Skrobolak new Forward coach

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Don’t think there are too many 1.8M dollar houses in Dandy


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