Not really Dave.

Alan Richardson has developed quite a reputation as a "teaching" assistant coach. And Choco Williams is known as a "teaching" coach. I don't recall Frawley ever being described as that.

Assuming that's what you meant by "mentoring" of course!

Now official.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2013-11-0 ... -statement


Man we look like a rabble ...

And memories aren't as clear 9 years later, particularly if there was booze involved. So I also don't think it will end up going anywahere, and if it doesn't, you'd have to question the motives of those who brought the charges on this time. It always seemd to me to be a big ask to convict on the evi...

It's not necessarily a question of who is lying, or not. It's just difficult to see how there is not a truckload of reasonable doubt.

Missing evidence, conflicting statements, he said/she said ...

Seems pretty messy from the cheap seats at least.

Unlikely. He'll most likely go 1 or 2 ... either way it's GWS for him now.

mr six o'clock wrote:They even used her to stitch up ricky nixon !

I'm pretty sure Ricky stiched himself up ...

Get over it and stop trying to lay blame on one thing or one player. That poor kicking in the 2009 GF that Lyon devotees and messiah worshippers are harping on about happened in the first half. Grand Finals are not won at half time or 3 quarter time. We were outplayed and outcoached and the team lo...

Under Lyon you work your arse off getting an inside 50 in a GF. Maybe players are spent and struggle to convert as a result As you do under any gameplan .. the modern game is all about covering the ground well. All teams have to run both ways to succeed. We missed some shots in 2009 my grandmother ...

In a GF, opportunities are rarer, and conversion is statistically worse than in the regular season. So I do blame the game plan. Under Lyon, it's a fact that you don't give yourself as many scoring opportunities. In a Grand Final, it's fact that conversion is lower. So you do the maths . I did. One...

Scollop wrote:Thanks. The simpletons all agree with you. You could get a job on radio or on the special comments team with BT with that type of analysis.

Apparently not. You don't ...

Yet another keyboard hero ... if you disagree, fine, refute my argument. Play the ball, not the player ...

Whatever your view about his departure from the Saints Lyon can really coach. Freo lost because they didn't take their opportunities when they had them, the same as us in 2009 (and they, like us, played a very good team to boot). That's is purely down to the players, not the coach. His gameplan put ...

What if the senior blokes who have been rated as "A" graders played somewhere to that standard? By my count we only have 1 A-grader left, the big blonde bloke, and he's having a spell tomorrow.

Can't leave it all to the kids ...

Even given the 2nd quarter last week was exceedingly poor, in comparison to the first quarter against North is was positively magnificent. That was as bad as I have seen us play for years.

But I do agree with your main point ... could be a few years in the wilderness yet to come.

Plugger, I doubt it will actually matter this week. This one could be ugly ...

The lad looked completely lost, and slow of both thought and deed last week. Clearly at this time is just not up to it. Not that strange a selection decision for mine. Hopefully the taste of the higher pressure and speed levels he experienced will push him to work even harder and he gets another cha...

Roo is warming up right now ...

Very good player Harry. Love to have him in our team.

Con Gorozidis wrote:Melbourne are the biggest rabble in AFL (post 1990) history.

Don't remember the last couple of years of Fitzroy? Now that was a rabble ...

Melbourne will have to work a bit harder at it to plumb those depths.

Harvey To Hayes wrote:and gave him a cheap shot in the kidneys from behind, like to see how you would have handled it...

Or more accurately a relatively mild-looking tap to the belly ... could easily have hit him in the right spot, but it was the belly not the kidneys.

As he should. That was a seriously dumb thing to do.

BigMart wrote:If Milney was Chris Judd he may have got off!

And we would all be very pleased if he was Chris Judd!

Disgrace is a bit strong IMO. Perhaps just not up to speed? I still don't get why he was recruited given we already had 4 small type forwards available. As for the others, Milera was as soft as butter, and Saad just fumbles under pressure. Not one of Milney's stellar matches either. Not a great day ...

Would you be upset if someone took him on? I know it will only be push and shove, but if he doesn't get any attention I will be disappointed. BJ gave us 10 years of pretty good service, and was instumental in us nearly snagging a couple of flags. I'm struggling to see why so many of us begrudge him...

That mark is the best thing I've seen on a footy field. I used to watch it before games for motivation. Just unbelievable. Funny thing was that it wasn't mark of the year?! But voted Mark of the decade! No doubt a great, great mark, but he's not the only guy to take one of those. Jon Brown & Ji...

The umpire made a mistake. No more than that. They make several every game, as do players and coaches.

Not a fan of the rule myself, but in this case it was simply applied incorrectly.