Saints Team

[Sainternist]

Dempster not only retains his spot but gets promoted as a Ruck Rover. How the bloody hell does that work out

FFS Rossco, why don't you buy him a new car and house whilst you're at it.

[bigcarl]

Winmar selection surely a carrot for him. No way will he play.

He is getting alot of carrots then, isn't this the third time he has been named now, though admittedly as an emergency prior.

I reckon

Out Hayes Baker Jones Blake
In Schneider Steven Winmar Smith

Archer is still in the squad, so I can't see Kosi playing?

Hope Jones stays in. Granted, gis form hasn't been great but I'm backing him to turn it around.

[bergholt]

Hope Jones stays in. Granted, gis form hasn't been great but I'm backing him to turn it around.

agreed. at this point i reckon:

IN: Schneider, Smith, Steven
OUT: Baker, Blake, Hayes

SUB: Steven, unless Schneider isn't quite match fit yet

winmar isn't quite there yet for mine. stanley hasn't been doing enough, and i don't know what his position is. only one of kosi and archer can play, especially with hille out.

overall this team looks pretty good, check it:

B: Gwilt, Dawson, Dempster
HB: Gilbert, Fisher, Clarke
C: Goddard, Jones, Montagna
HF: Gram, Riewoldt, Schneider
F: Gamble, Archer/Koschitzke, Milne
R: McEvoy, Dal Santo, Armitage
IC: Peake, Ray, Smith
S: Steven

the backline still looks quite tall so can be exploited by pace. but then there are nine legitimate midfielders (bj, dal, armo, joey, cj, gram, peake, ray, smith), plus steven as an impact sub, and schneider and milne who can run through there at times. that's two more than last week, so you can't say they haven't tried to get us some run. also four legitimate forward goalkickers (roo, milney, schneids, vegas) - one more than last week - plus archer or kosi for structure, and gilbo and bj who will spend time down there.

i don't know if it's necessarily going to work, but this is definitely an evolution of the existing side.

[bigred]

I wouldn't sub Steven.

Swap him with Ray and I'm happy with your team sheet.

Would go with Kosi over Archer, underdone or not.

Still has me arsed how Dempster kept his spot.

[bergholt]

I wouldn't sub Steven.

Swap him with Ray and I'm happy with your team sheet.

yeah, the sub position is always a bit of a raffle.

Would go with Kosi over Archer, underdone or not.

i'd love to see kosi play two full games at sandy, this week and next, really get some work into his legs and then have him ready to play forward/ruck after the bye - maybe even in some form. mcevoy can do 80% of the ruckwork again this week, coz he's got the week off next week to recover.

Still has me arsed how Dempster kept his spot.

someone has to play on a small forward. none of the other defenders are really small and quick enough to do that. dempster's the only real choice, in the absence of baker and polo. (though maybe smith will get a run down there as well.)

[SainterK]

Winmar selection surely a carrot for him. No way will he play.

He is getting alot of carrots then, isn't this the third time he has been named now, though admittedly as an emergency prior.

I reckon

Out Hayes Baker Jones Blake
In Schneider Steven Winmar Smith

Archer is still in the squad, so I can't see Kosi playing?

Hope Jones stays in. Granted, gis form hasn't been great but I'm backing him to turn it around.

Yeah, I was just reading into the fact he was sub last week, like they are trying to find him a spot.

[bigred]

Its been done to death on the forum this week, but Dempsters footskills last week were atrocious. Not just bad.....

Missing targets by over ten meters while under no pressure is just not good enough. His turnovers last week cost us goals in an already leaky defence.

I would play Smith ahead of him atm.

[bob__71]

I hope they go with Archer Kosi Roo and Gilbert in the Forward line. Big Mac whole game in middle. We need to move on to a multipronged forward line.

[Zed]

my guess is Schneids, Gamble and Jones will all play and Kosi will be the sub. He is clearly not going to be match fit but could come on in the 2nd half to replace Archer or Big Mac.

[matrix]

i wouldnt play the big man till after the bye
dempster will surely tag watson (sorry K i just dont rate the foot skills and decision making)
cant see winmar getting a gig, but gawd knows how the selection process works.

schneides is a decent in, hope he's fit...might be the sub???, or subbed out??? to ease him back into it.

looking forward to the game.....there will be a bit of fire in the belly i reckon this week, roos 200th, grammy opening his trap, youth named, players back (possibly)
can see it being firey and a good game.
sunday cant come quick enough

[Beno88]

I have a feeling Dempster will be the sub this week. And Gamble may be dropped.

[Saints94]

FB: J.Gwilt Z.Dawson R.Clarke

CHB: S.Gilbert S.Fisher J.Gram

C: L.Montagna C.Jones B.Goddard

CHF: R.Gamble N.Riewoldt J.Steven

FF: A.Schneider J.Koscithzke S.Milne

FOLL: B.McEvoy D.Armitage N.Dal Santo

INT: F.Ray B.Peake A.Smith Sub: N.Winmar

EMG: S.Dempster R.Stanley D.Archer

IN: J.Steven, A.Schnieder, J.Koschtizke, A.Smith & N.Winmar

OUT: L.Hayes, S.Dempster, D.Archer, S.Baker & J.Blake

[Thinline]

FB: J.Gwilt Z.Dawson R.Clarke

CHB: S.Gilbert S.Fisher J.Gram

C: L.Montagna C.Jones B.Goddard

CHF: R.Gamble N.Riewoldt J.Steven

FF: A.Schneider J.Koscithzke S.Milne

FOLL: B.McEvoy D.Armitage N.Dal Santo

INT: F.Ray B.Peake A.Smith Sub: N.Winmar

EMG: S.Dempster R.Stanley D.Archer

IN: J.Steven, A.Schnieder, J.Koschtizke, A.Smith & N.Winmar

OUT: L.Hayes, S.Dempster, D.Archer, S.Baker & J.Blake

Like that side very much, but I'd maybe lean towards Archer over an match UNfit Koz.

I get the feeling with Koz that if he gets a good start (something he didn't do last season) he'll be right for the year. To put him in underdone risks that 'good start' possibility. Besides Ross never plays them undercooked. So Archer for mine for a few reasons.

[Saints94]

FB: J.Gwilt Z.Dawson R.Clarke

CHB: S.Gilbert S.Fisher J.Gram

C: L.Montagna C.Jones B.Goddard

CHF: R.Gamble N.Riewoldt J.Steven

FF: A.Schneider J.Koscithzke S.Milne

FOLL: B.McEvoy D.Armitage N.Dal Santo

INT: F.Ray B.Peake A.Smith Sub: N.Winmar

EMG: S.Dempster R.Stanley D.Archer

IN: J.Steven, A.Schnieder, J.Koschtizke, A.Smith & N.Winmar

OUT: L.Hayes, S.Dempster, D.Archer, S.Baker & J.Blake

Like that side very much, but I'd maybe lean towards Archer over an match UNfit Koz.

I get the feeling with Koz that if he gets a good start (something he didn't do last season) he'll be right for the year. To put him in underdone risks that 'good start' possibility. Besides Ross never plays them undercooked. So Archer for mine for a few reasons.

Yeah true, but i would prefer Rhys Stanley over Archer because of his athletisim and pure up side

[Junior]

Could someone please remind me how Dempster went in the final series last year?

FFS sick of certain players always copping it.

Just because he is named as ruck rover does not mean that is where he is playing, and if so it would be as a tagger a role he proved quite handy at in September last year.

yes his skills were terrible last week and if there is not a tagging role should not play but how about some analysis on some of the so called stars of the team who are playing like Busted Areses at the moment.

Including a couple of them not putting their head over the ball.

As I think David King said this week we could be two zip and the reason we are not is beacuse our top players have not hit the ground running.

[matrix]

sure
there ya go
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/play ... pster.html

[MCG-Unit]

Dempster not only retains his spot but gets promoted as a Ruck Rover. How the bloody hell does that work out

FFS Rossco, why don't you buy him a new car and house whilst you're at it.

Maybe it's because they plan to tag Watson with him - or make out they are going to ?

I wouldn't take too much notice of where they're named on the team sheet

[Dr Spaceman]

FB: J.Gwilt Z.Dawson R.Clarke

CHB: S.Gilbert S.Fisher J.Gram

C: L.Montagna C.Jones B.Goddard

CHF: R.Gamble N.Riewoldt J.Steven

FF: A.Schneider J.Koscithzke S.Milne

FOLL: B.McEvoy D.Armitage N.Dal Santo

INT: F.Ray B.Peake A.Smith Sub: N.Winmar

EMG: S.Dempster R.Stanley D.Archer

IN: J.Steven, A.Schnieder, J.Koschtizke, A.Smith & N.Winmar

OUT: L.Hayes, S.Dempster, D.Archer, S.Baker & J.Blake

Like that side very much, but I'd maybe lean towards Archer over an match UNfit Koz.

I get the feeling with Koz that if he gets a good start (something he didn't do last season) he'll be right for the year. To put him in underdone risks that 'good start' possibility. Besides Ross never plays them undercooked. So Archer for mine for a few reasons.

Yeah true, but i would prefer Rhys Stanley over Archer because of his athletisim and pure up side

I'll just take whichever one has more chance of actually kicking one of those goaly thingies

[elvis lives]

disappointed for Tommy Lynch, although perhaps a game against the bombers not good for his mental prep given how he went against the bombers last time.

[Con Gorozidis]

[quote="Junior"]
yes his skills were terrible last week quote]

his skills are terrible every week. fumbles. cant kick. cant handball.

did play some good blanket jobs on small fwds last year.

but did get touched up by Monfries last few times.

Certainly a coaches pet. No doubt.

[To the top]

Agree that some of our big name players are well below expected standards so far - and are having minimal impact on games.

Even the captain - whilst putting in effort - is having minimal impact.

Some of the others just appear to be lazy and looking for sideways chips hence ineffective.

This is putting the pressure on the lesser lights - and bringing those into focus who are in focus.

With Harvey as one of the coaches this is surprising because Harvey always ran forward to create an option - then ran again and again.

Currently some can take a lesson from him.

[saintlee]

Final Team:

Complete ins and outs:
In: A.Schneider , J.Steven , R.Stanley , A.Smith
Out: J.Blake (Omitted) , D.Archer (Omitted) , S.Baker (Foot) , L.Hayes (Knee)

[saintlee]

Pretty surprised to see Stanley in the team, really didn't think his form warranted it.

Great to see Smith get his debut....hard insider midfielder to help cover the loss of Hayes.

[St Chris]

Final Team:

Complete ins and outs:
In: A.Schneider , J.Steven , R.Stanley , A.Smith
Out: J.Blake (Omitted) , D.Archer (Omitted) , S.Baker (Foot) , L.Hayes (Knee)

Kosi must play for Sandringham this week then. Gotta get some footy into him.

[doggerel]

Final Team:

Complete ins and outs:
In: A.Schneider , J.Steven , R.Stanley , A.Smith
Out: J.Blake (Omitted) , D.Archer (Omitted) , S.Baker (Foot) , L.Hayes (Knee)

wow, looks like Ross is trying to fight fire with fire (or pace with pace). Worth a shot.