Last week on paddy ryder
197
This week clarke
197
Someone should tell ross gwilt is only 6'2 and giving up 6 inches to those guys
Gwilt is a hbf playing key back....fisher is a key back playing hbf
Poor old jimmy gwilt
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
Sainternist
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11300
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
- Location: South of Heaven
- Has thanked: 1296 times
- Been thanked: 437 times
100% correctBigMart wrote:Gwilt is a good player....vital...
He is in the wrong role...
We should be using his footskills out of defense....for some reason he takes the best fwd....not sure the reasons....he aint big, he is better offensively than allmother backs and we would not have to park goddard across hb
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
-
goddardisgod
- Club Player
- Posts: 268
- Joined: Tue 21 Dec 2010 3:04pm
I think Jimmy needs to partner Armo in Inside midfield. Strong Mark, damaging left food, hard at it (unlike some "glares at Photo of Gram"), and I reckon a quick kick from his boot will put pressure on opposition forwards. Also willing to take the game on, which is why Milne and Schneids played so much midfield tonight.
Bring in Walsh!
Bring in Walsh!
-
perfectionist
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8991
- Joined: Mon 30 Jul 2007 3:06pm
- Has thanked: 59 times
- Been thanked: 343 times
Soft option putting sam our best back on their worse fwd......gwilt, gilbert, dawson for that matter would rack them up being the 'drop off'
Sam should play chb
Zac full back
Blake back pocket
Gwilt off half back in the role vacated by raph......use gilbert elsewhere....
Blake....not sure why he was dropped????
Maybe because he was playing chf/ruck instead of the role which has seen top ten b&f results in gf years
Sam should play chb
Zac full back
Blake back pocket
Gwilt off half back in the role vacated by raph......use gilbert elsewhere....
Blake....not sure why he was dropped????
Maybe because he was playing chf/ruck instead of the role which has seen top ten b&f results in gf years
-
perfectionist
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8991
- Joined: Mon 30 Jul 2007 3:06pm
- Has thanked: 59 times
- Been thanked: 343 times
This could be the answer to two problems. Switch Gilbo and Jimmy's roles. I like itperfectionist wrote:With Sam Fisher, because he is the one player who can get us moving forward from the backline. With Sam Gilbert, see another thread.BigMart wrote:Why cant gilbert or sam fisher play key back....is there any good reason
STRENGTH THROUGH LOYALTY.
''I still get really excited, and I've got the '66 thing up on the wall in a frame … You look at it and think: one day, we want to achieve that.''- Arryn Siposs
''I still get really excited, and I've got the '66 thing up on the wall in a frame … You look at it and think: one day, we want to achieve that.''- Arryn Siposs
-
kosifantutti23
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2388
- Joined: Fri 26 Sep 2008 12:55am
- Location: Horgen
Re: Poor old jimmy gwilt
I think you have identified our major problem. Other teams have metric heights but ours are still in feet an inches.BigMart wrote:Last week on paddy ryder
197
This week clarke
197
Someone should tell ross gwilt is only 6'2 and giving up 6 inches to those guys
Gwilt is a hbf playing key back....fisher is a key back playing hbf
Furtius Quo Rdelious
-
Bardon Saint
- Club Player
- Posts: 669
- Joined: Thu 27 Aug 2009 4:04pm
- Location: Cairns
Miss Gwilt's run of the half back line and especially his penetrating kicks. He's playing in the wrong position. Who would he take against the Pies? Another mismatch there too. Although Blake does not offer more that consistent spoiling and a critical free against per game, he is important to our structure.
Bardon Saint wrote:Miss Gwilt's run of the half back line and especially his penetrating kicks. He's playing in the wrong position. Who would he take against the Pies? Another mismatch there too. Although Blake does not offer more that consistent spoiling and a critical free against per game, he is important to our structure.
agreed mate, blake needs to come back into the team.
his role on the best forwards is vital, as we have all seen how good gwilty has become when he is able to attack.
also its bloody frustrating watching him up against the resting ruckman.give the kid a chance to compete evenly would be a good change.
-
samoht
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5767
- Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
- Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
- Has thanked: 586 times
- Been thanked: 436 times
- Contact:
-
Junction Oval
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2867
- Joined: Tue 30 Nov 2010 11:16am
- Been thanked: 19 times
-
The OtherThommo
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5062
- Joined: Sun 27 Feb 2005 2:30am
- Has thanked: 15 times
- Been thanked: 125 times
He's done well on taller opponents many times. Pods at the G last year (BOG) and towelled Dawes in the drawn GF. Took Fev when he was a fledgling and did OK. Has taken Goodes and been competitive.
He, like most defenders, relies on some pressure being applied as the pill comes forward. When that pressure is applied Jimmy can use his strength (coming from the Mal Michael like physique). Going by our tackle numbers and opponents inside 50 counts this year, that pressure is well down. We've been getting sliced apart through the middle badly all year - that makes any deep defender's job tough.
One of the things I like about Jimmy is he sticks to his task. Even when struggling he still works to get off and supply some rebound, particularly via his superior foot skills.
I reckon the internal assessment will be he's done AWACBE, given the lack of pressure on the opposition ball carriers, and has been good at giving us some quality rebound.
He, like most defenders, relies on some pressure being applied as the pill comes forward. When that pressure is applied Jimmy can use his strength (coming from the Mal Michael like physique). Going by our tackle numbers and opponents inside 50 counts this year, that pressure is well down. We've been getting sliced apart through the middle badly all year - that makes any deep defender's job tough.
One of the things I like about Jimmy is he sticks to his task. Even when struggling he still works to get off and supply some rebound, particularly via his superior foot skills.
I reckon the internal assessment will be he's done AWACBE, given the lack of pressure on the opposition ball carriers, and has been good at giving us some quality rebound.
'I have no new illusions, and I have no old illusions' - Vladimir Putin, Geneva, June 2021
-
borderbarry
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6676
- Joined: Mon 19 Apr 2004 11:22pm
- Location: Wodonga
-
Junction Oval
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2867
- Joined: Tue 30 Nov 2010 11:16am
- Been thanked: 19 times
-
samoht
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5767
- Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
- Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
- Has thanked: 586 times
- Been thanked: 436 times
- Contact:
I'm judging on last night's performance .. and comparing our second tall forward non-options to Clark, who was a good option.BigMart wrote:One on one clarke wouldve have beaten anyone....turn it up....
He had 3 goals from ;3 games at full forward until last night...
He would not beat a good full back as easily as he towelled up gwilt one on one....scarlett would flog him...
Scarlett wouldn't have towelled him last night, if he outbodied Gwilt he would've outbodied Scarlett too.
And Blake is only 1- 2cms taller than Gwilt ..Blake is good value but Gwilt has a much better kick and provides more run.
Last edited by samoht on Fri 22 Apr 2011 11:59am, edited 1 time in total.