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Post: # 1324486Post dcstkfc »

On paper this is the worst St Kilda side in at least 5 years


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dcstkfc wrote:On paper this is the worst St Kilda side in at least 5 years
No, that was last week, hands down.


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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

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Last Week's team should have all got the sack except for Jones and Geary


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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

Post: # 1324495Post CURLY »

Good side plenty of pace and added two midfielders which is fantastic. Kosi in is also a good inclusion far better than Maister.


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Post: # 1324496Post Uncle Barrels »

Posted this in the other thread....

TDL staying in is a tad mystifying. Although I dont think he was quite as bad as some have made out.

Scotty seems to be fond of playing ducks and drakes though; says yesterday Kosi is basically no chance, yet there he is on the pine!

EDIT: Forecast is for 9* and 'very windy' and we want Kosi IN?!!!


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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

Post: # 1324497Post cwrcyn »

Ross is smallish compared to guys like Haneberry. He looked like a junior burger versus the big macs last week, so I'm not sure if wet conditions will necessarily help him. However, I really hope you're right SuperDuper.


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Post: # 1324500Post Eastern »

A "BIG" Challenge for Kosi. Needs to perform to hold his spot in the side. I hope he performs that well that the selectors (and the anti/fans) are left with no choice but to accept/place him in the side for the next few weeks. 6 goals in a winning side should be enough !!


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Watts the Buzz wrote:
falka wrote:If Dennis lane is sub I will cry :cry:
If Dennis Lane is NOT sub I will cry
Must just be my memories in Rd 1 where he came on for a grand total of 0 possessions.


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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

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FQF wrote:Agree I think it is over the top, too many young players. Don't mind the Kosi selection though.

Would rather see the young guys getting a go. What's the point of hanging on to players like Kosi? When there's a young alternative available, play them. We're not going to be challenging or playing finals this year, so can't see the point in playing guys who are past it.


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Post: # 1324503Post terry smith rules »

As with every week I will be barracking at full pace. But I worry that by picking all these kids at once is going over the top. It is wonderful to blood them, but surely we need a balance and structure as to what we are trying to do.

So this is where I question Watters, last week 4 small forwards so obviously a specific game plan, we lose two which would allude to another plan. Lets have a structure/plan and stick to it.
I also fear for McEvoy, he is solid player, but surely against teams like Ess and Syd with two big rucks he needs proper support

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Eastern wrote:A "BIG" Challenge for Kosi. Needs to perform to hold his spot in the side. I hope he performs that well that the selectors (and the anti/fans) are left with no choice but to accept/place him in the side for the next few weeks. 6 goals in a winning side should be enough !!
If Kosi kicks 3 it would be a miracle, not that he's kicked 3 goals, but he got 3 kicks!


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I am super excited, it's a very inexperienced team, but really, there isn't a lot of (fit) talented mature bodies sitting in the stands.

I didn't have Kosi & TDL in my ins & outs, but genuinely hope they both have awesome games.

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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

Post: # 1324526Post saintbob »

Surely Siposs come in as a late change for TDL


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Post: # 1324532Post BigMart »

Looks like a NAB Cup team....


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dcstkfc wrote:On paper this is the worst St Kilda side in at least 5 years
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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

Post: # 1324544Post bobmurray »

A few debutants, a few with under 10 games experience and quite a few who butcher the ball...

Why do we think we are so much better than the Bulldogs, is it because of what out ageing star players have done over their journey....

As we evolve we may well end up paralleling the Dogs, or worse, trailing them if our recruiting is still ordinary....


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st.byron wrote:I suppose Kosi is in as back-up for Big Ben. Disappointed with this selection. Would rather see Hickey get a go. Can't see the point of playing Koschitzke.
How about Hickey would be backing up after four days?

Sometimes it's about managing the player.....


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The 4 small forwards structure would be based on having 4 small forwards that are up to it and can deliver wins. Clearly they haven't so move to 2 small forwards a resting mid with a medium lead up - not sure what's so confusing about that. People asking what the plan is are assuming we have a plan A and are working just on that - 1 dimensional thinking. We also need to find out what our list can do.

Kosi in is no brainer on 2 fronts 1/you're going to include debutants 2/ Ben needs the help. Surely you wouldn't put in Hickey with Saunders and Murdoch - Hickey currently is about a 4 to 5 possession player. That 10 goal loss would definately blow out to a 15 goal loss.


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Post: # 1324556Post Con Gorozidis »

The thing about the Kosi in recent years is he does play about 4 good games a year. So we just need to remember that.
Manage him smartly and try for 6 good games from him for the year.

What we usually do is get 3 or 4 good games out of him and then he plays for the next 12 weeks and gets gradually worse as his body wears out and he just becomes a witches hat with a saints jumper on.

This is why opinions on Kosi are so divided on this forum. Half of us remember the 4 good games a year and forget the rest. The other half of us remember his 12 stinkers a year and forget his 4 good games....

Lets play him this week - and them give him a freshen up with a week off and we can play Hickey for a few weeks..

The big kos really needs 10 day breaks.
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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

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plugger66 wrote:Good to have young kids but way over the top IMO. 2 of the those kids are off a 4 day break. How unfair is that. One will obviously be sub but that side is going to really struggle. Siposs had to play. he is obviously fit or he wouldnt be over there. And then we pick all young guys and still play Kosi. Call me a cab this one is over. Sorry for being negative but I am confused.
It's not negative but realistic.

There will be a late change or two.

If Siposs is fit he should play.

Kosi does not deserve a gig.

One of Saunders or Murdoch but not both.

Selections very weird so expected 2 late changes.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:The thing about the Kosi in recent years is he does play about 4 good games a year. So we just need to remember that.
Manage him smartly and try for 6 good games from him for the year.

What we usually do is get 3 or 4 good games out of him and then he plays for the next 12 weeks and gets gradually worse as his body wears out and he just becomes a witches hat with a saints jumper on.

This is why opinions on Kosi are so divided on this forum. Half of us remember the 4 good games a year and forget the rest. The other half of us remember his 12 stinkers a year and forget his 4 good games....

Lets play him this week - and them give him a freshen up with a week off and we can play Hickey for a few weeks..
You may have nailed it. Maybe Kosi will get 2 or 3 goals and 5 or 6 touches. That's a pass mark for the big fella.

But if he got stats like that, I reckon SW would be tempted to play him the following week.

But I prefer him as novelty value like you allude to.


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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

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Siposs late change for Murdoch perhaps?


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This is a much better team. We are going to see young players getting a go on the big stage. I have no problems with St Kilda losing as long as we play with heart and try our guts out. There is no shame in losing to a better team. All we want from this team is to see some promise for the future.


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Re: Final Team vs Sydney

Post: # 1324566Post Greg T »

3rd generation saint wrote:Kosi will obviously play back up ruck and be planted in the goal square, why some here may be disappointed in his selection, let's hope he has a good game.
All the best for the debutants. think Stanley will go down back to CHB, or FB.
Love the Kosi man,he still has a bit to offer our club.no need for head kicking.
Stanley is a gun to come ,good comments mate


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How the frock is Dempster playing? Will we see the Lecras forearm brace?


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