VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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SainterK wrote:Has to have op it something IMO

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Could be injured. Most definitely, but I don't know...


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He just haven't got a tank for elite footy for 120 mins

Does not make enough contest or defend well enough due to lack of running power.... Still smooth when he gets it...


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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No injury from Siposs that im aware of, just lacks the intensity. Think all hype has just got to him and thinks it will just be gifted to him.

Match Report - http://truezebras.net/2013/06/23/round- ... -dolphins/

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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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Was there

Not even going to comment


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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Did Tom Lee play? If he did, how did he go?


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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White Winmar wrote:Did Tom Lee play? If he did, how did he go?
No. Achilles. Was there though.


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

Post: # 1350350Post samuraisaint »

I think having a whinge about Sippa is a bit rich. Frankston just have to concentrate on winning, but Sandy have issues of developing players versus winning and it seems like this is starting to tell. The Sandy coaching team was cleaned out 18 months ago and the whole thing was acrimonious from what I have heard.
Whatever happened to the St Kilda academy idea?
Best cut our ties with Zebras methinks.


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

Post: # 1350354Post bobmurray »

samuraisaint wrote:I think having a whinge about Sippa is a bit rich. Frankston just have to concentrate on winning, but Sandy have issues of developing players versus winning and it seems like this is starting to tell. The Sandy coaching team was cleaned out 18 months ago and the whole thing was acrimonious from what I have heard.
Whatever happened to the St Kilda academy idea?
Best cut our ties with Zebras methinks.

The Academy is up and running, development will be coming soon...stay tuned


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Post: # 1350355Post Bernard Shakey »

Glad I went to the Community Cup today. Beasts of Bourbon were awesome!


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sippos was just un interested no whinge just terrible to be honest apart from wright no one of those players deserves to pull on the red white and black was just ridiculous never seen such un-interest from an entire team.... we have some very big problems if that is our pool of talent!


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Despite the loss I am encouraged by some of the comments in the match report:

Josh Saunders continued his claim to be reinstated in the St Kilda team after a solid outing with 20 disposals. He used his dash across half back with Nathan Wright (14 disposals), but at times blazed away to opposition players.

Adam Cockie was once again in the best with 22 disposals, 4 tackles and 1 goal. He worked tirelessly all day in the midfield but he did limp off the ground late and did not return. Tom Curren (30 disposals, 1 goal) and Tom Ledger (25 disposals, 1 goal) were also notable players in the midfield.

Prospering defender Jordan Staley (10 disposals, 1 goal) played his best game of the year in defence and moved into the ruck in the second half.

Saunders
Wright
Curren
Ledger
Staley (really seems to be improving?)

Surely time for Curren to be elevated. Give Ross or Newnes a rest perhaps?


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

Post: # 1350404Post spert »

That's at least three 10 goal plus beltings Sandy have had now, so something is not right down there. There's enough talent there to be much more competitive than this. It doesn't give me lot of confidence for the future.


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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bobmurray wrote:
samuraisaint wrote:I think having a whinge about Sippa is a bit rich. Frankston just have to concentrate on winning, but Sandy have issues of developing players versus winning and it seems like this is starting to tell. The Sandy coaching team was cleaned out 18 months ago and the whole thing was acrimonious from what I have heard.
Whatever happened to the St Kilda academy idea?
Best cut our ties with Zebras methinks.

The Academy is up and running, development will be coming soon...stay tuned

whats that supposed to mean?

i thought the aacdemy and development was the same thing?


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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Bernard Shakey wrote:Glad I went to the Community Cup today. Beasts of Bourbon were awesome!
Great day out. I just wish I'd played a bit better.


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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I've been to a few games this year, and the overall standard of the games has been poor (both against combined AFL-VFL teams). The teams don't appear to be set up in a natural way - i.e. we have a mixture of older struggling AFL palyers and up and coming AFL palyers - sandwiched around the VFL palyers , most of whom are not going anywhere.

Interested in thoughts about whether the structure of these combined teams is hindering development. The Geelong experience is the obvious example. Maybe bring back our oiwn Saints Reserves?


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

Post: # 1350486Post samuraisaint »

bergholt wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:Glad I went to the Community Cup today. Beasts of Bourbon were awesome!
Great day out. I just wish I'd played a bit better.
Yep - fantastic day - lucky for me it hasn't clashed with a Sainters match for the past four years. Always a great event.


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Scotty mentioned in his speech at the 50 year+ Members function that a standalone Reserves side is on the agenda however $$ is the stumbling block

Critically important IMO..Sheesh if the Doggies can afford it..


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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bergholt wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:Glad I went to the Community Cup today. Beasts of Bourbon were awesome!
Great day out. I just wish I'd played a bit better.

In the game or in the band?


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saint66au wrote:Scotty mentioned in his speech at the 50 year+ Members function that a standalone Reserves side is on the agenda however $$ is the stumbling block

Critically important IMO..Sheesh if the Doggies can afford it..
OK, hadnt heard that. I agree, we need to restructure - whether we takeover sandy or have our own team. Cant imagine playing on that little ground at Sandy helps.


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mordi wrote:
saint66au wrote:Scotty mentioned in his speech at the 50 year+ Members function that a standalone Reserves side is on the agenda however $$ is the stumbling block

Critically important IMO..Sheesh if the Doggies can afford it..
OK, hadnt heard that. I agree, we need to restructure - whether we takeover sandy or have our own team. Cant imagine playing on that little ground at Sandy helps.

I think the difference is WB have a ground that resembles an AFL ground. We dont.


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could be the start of the end of our sandy relationship. I would be happy to pay an extra $10 (35k members equate to $350k) if it meant that we could have our own team. Problem is where would be play.


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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plugger66 wrote:
mordi wrote:
saint66au wrote:Scotty mentioned in his speech at the 50 year+ Members function that a standalone Reserves side is on the agenda however $$ is the stumbling block

Critically important IMO..Sheesh if the Doggies can afford it..
OK, hadnt heard that. I agree, we need to restructure - whether we takeover sandy or have our own team. Cant imagine playing on that little ground at Sandy helps.
I think the difference is WB have a ground that resembles an AFL ground. We dont.

Perfect opportunity to do something with Moorabbin ... clearly, it would cost money but it would give us an opportunity to get back to our heartland without selling out of Seaford.


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suss wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
mordi wrote:
OK, hadnt heard that. I agree, we need to restructure - whether we takeover sandy or have our own team. Cant imagine playing on that little ground at Sandy helps.
I think the difference is WB have a ground that resembles an AFL ground. We dont.

Perfect opportunity to do something with Moorabbin ... clearly, it would cost money but it would give us an opportunity to get back to our heartland without selling out of Seaford.

It would cost millions though. I think they are trying to get it fixed but need council and government support. that wont be easy.


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Solar wrote:could be the start of the end of our sandy relationship. I would be happy to pay an extra $10 (35k members equate to $350k) if it meant that we could have our own team. Problem is where would be play.
Moorabbin playing surfgace is elite..as is LHC, but neither have sufficient facilities to host VFL footy.

Youd think with the Social Club facility still there (and you'd think haemmoraging money now) it would be woorth our while to do the minumum required to get VFL footy there.

$300,000/year is the figure Ive heard. NZ could have paid for it..but sadly instead its (only partially) compensating the 10,000 members weve dropped in 3 years.


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Re: VFL: Sandringham vs Frankston

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plugger66 wrote:In the game or in the band?
In the game. Not a musical bone in my body, unfortunately!


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