Rowan Marshall

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
Vazelos
Club Player
Posts: 1265
Joined: Sun 12 Sep 2010 1:17am
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 319 times

Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681738Post Vazelos »

There is a bit of talk about this kid as he is out performing the other Rucks on our list at the Zebras for most of the year...
He seems to have the ability to go forward and kick goals too and apparently is a natural footballer with good hands and mobility...
Not sure what his ruck work is like but I would be thinking he is pushing for a senior spot in 2018.

Where does that leave us in the big man stakes?

We have 2 Ruckman who have alternated years in playing senior football both having what the other does not possess, which one is going to improve his deficiencies to become no 1?

Longer- 2015 & 2017 Senior Ruckman- strong, combative tap ruckman average around the ground
Hickey- 2016 Senior Ruckman average body work and tap ruckman but talented around the ground with good agility below his knees.
Lewis Pierce- unsighted except for 1 game against Carlton last year he seems to have gone backwards yet has 2 more years on his contract!!!
Jason Holmes- looks like Holmes will be delisted end of year.
Rowan Marshall- consistent quality performer in the VFL putting his hand up for a senior contract.


Can someone who is watching Zebras closer give us some better feed back?


spert
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 9142
Joined: Wed 29 Jun 2005 10:39pm
Location: A distant beach
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 437 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681745Post spert »

I have no confidence in the Saints development of players, and I just hope Marshall can take a step up and not flop around and go nowhere like too many other promising players we have, or have had.


footynut
Club Player
Posts: 629
Joined: Sun 05 Sep 2004 2:28am
Location: Ballarat
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 52 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681746Post footynut »

Currently playing CHB in the VFL, however started the year in the forward line and was consistently kicking multiple goals.

Personally I cant see why they dont rotate Carlisle, Hickey/Longer and Marshall through the ruck, back & forward lines. Peoplemay argue we'lll loose run, but we gain flexibility.


User avatar
WellardSaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8380
Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
Has thanked: 1907 times
Been thanked: 883 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681748Post WellardSaint »

footynut wrote:Currently playing CHB in the VFL, however started the year in the forward line and was consistently kicking multiple goals.

Personally I cant see why they dont rotate Carlisle, Hickey/Longer and Marshall through the ruck, back & forward lines. Peoplemay argue we'lll loose run, but we gain flexibility.
Great suggestion.
The coaches seem keen to cross-train other guys, so why not?
They played Jack B and Sincs out of position last year to teach them flexibility- or so said some on here.
Do it for Jake, the 2 streetlights and Marshall


A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤🤍🖤 and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
SMS
Club Player
Posts: 1233
Joined: Fri 04 Nov 2011 3:00pm
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681751Post SMS »

Sell longer and hickey for next year round 2's.
They are useless let some other club get fooled into em.
Meanwhile build marshall and Pearce. Both taller and can go forward. Keep holmes as absolute back up for next 3 years.

Free Agent Rockcliff
2017 Hawks Round 1 J.Kelly
2017 Saints Round 1

2018 4 picks inside 40 in a superdraft.
Draft well and grab Sloane/L.Weller as free agents

2019 Premiership Team
Webster. Goddard. Geary
Roberton. Carisle. Newnes
J.Kelly. Ross. L.Weller
Billings. Bruce. Membrey
Gresham. McCartin. B.Long

Marshall. Steven. Rockcliff

Sloane. Dunstan. Freeman Sinclair


User avatar
White Winmar
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5014
Joined: Tue 02 Jun 2009 10:02pm

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681752Post White Winmar »

Just promote the boy. Sometimes you see a player and think, yep, he's got it. Clayton Oliver, the fat little bugger, was another one. Marshall might take some more time, but he's already played against men for three years, finished third in a VFL b&f and is right at home at the VFL level. He's got it. As good a mark as Paddy, a far better kick for goal and a decent pinch hitter in the ruck, the modern prototype. A sort of two metre Peter Wright. Just do it. We have eight weeks to give him a go. So much better than Billy. More versatile than Holmes. Has Pierce covered and is as potentially good as Hickey. Speaking of which, what's happened to him? From close to AA to Sandy struggler. Holler for a Marshall!


I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30096
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 1234 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681753Post saintsRrising »

While I am a Marshall fan one cannot really say that he is outperforming the other rucks as Marshall has basically been playing as a key position player with us this year rather than as a ruck.

This will help to develop him as a ruck forward....or even perhaps as just a key position player.
Last edited by saintsRrising on Sun 02 Jul 2017 12:10am, edited 1 time in total.


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
User avatar
sasaint
Club Player
Posts: 825
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 6:36pm
Location: Castlemaine
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681756Post sasaint »

Strange as it may sound I think we have to admit our ruck strategy has been a bit of a fail. Would think keep Longer as number one ruck keep Marshal as the backup, trade or more likely just delist the rest and roll the dice on the next available. That is after getting an elite mid or two This draft period. The no third man up rule has killed Hickeys serviceability.


Patience young grasshopper
Jacks Back
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6607
Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
Location: Here
Has thanked: 1324 times
Been thanked: 467 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681780Post Jacks Back »

I thought every side could promote a rookie half way through the year regardless of any injuries. Has this gone out the window?


As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”


St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
User avatar
ausfatcat
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6533
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:36pm
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 100 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681781Post ausfatcat »

no point in promoting if there not going to play, just means using more salary cap space for no reason


He needs time, not ready yet


Proph3t of egan
Club Player
Posts: 516
Joined: Sun 08 May 2016 8:02pm

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681827Post Proph3t of egan »

ausfatcat wrote:no point in promoting if there not going to play, just means using more salary cap space for no reason


He needs time, not ready yet
I agree, developing bigman right now, would only promote him if injuries to Roo, Bruce and McCartin at the same time


Fortius quo Fidelius means Strength through Loyalty. . . I think
User avatar
borderbarry
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6676
Joined: Mon 19 Apr 2004 11:22pm
Location: Wodonga

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681833Post borderbarry »

I feel differently. He should be played. Who knows, he may be better value than a forward already being played. Our selectors have now had three opportunities to promote a rookie, in Dempsters place, after round 11. and now to replace Minchington. Now why would'nt they have done so?


User avatar
Bernard Shakey
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11240
Joined: Sun 18 Mar 2007 11:22pm
Location: Down By The River 1989, 2003, 2009 & 2013
Has thanked: 126 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681834Post Bernard Shakey »

Nowhere near ready for AFL yet.


Old enough to repaint, but young enough to sell
User avatar
Linton Lodger
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2467
Joined: Mon 18 Aug 2014 2:07pm
Has thanked: 86 times
Been thanked: 256 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681838Post Linton Lodger »

Watching the Sandy game stream. Marshall is not ready for AFL, Josh Battle on the other hand is a very likely type.


User avatar
Otiman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8725
Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
Location: Elsewhere
Has thanked: 197 times
Been thanked: 648 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681843Post Otiman »

Snuck forward to get a nice goal 40 out from the fence.


Wombat15
Club Player
Posts: 328
Joined: Wed 21 Oct 2015 4:21pm
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1681844Post Wombat15 »

Was this before or after he nailed one from the flank? Shows the qualities required.


User avatar
Dave McNamara
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5815
Joined: Wed 21 Sep 2011 2:44pm
Location: Slotting another one from 94.5m out. Opposition flood? Bring it on...! Keep the faith Saintas!
Has thanked: 98 times
Been thanked: 106 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1682403Post Dave McNamara »

I'm a huge fan, and am very keen to see The Marshall in action. However, Bernard sees him every(?) week, and is a good judge. So I don't want to play Marshall (nor anyone else) till they're ready.

Along with The Battle, his time will come.


It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
Dave, man. Open up ------------------------------------------ -----Dave???
Yeah, Dave. ---------------------------------------------------------Dave's not here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOiG1hAr ... detailpage
skeptic wrote: Tue 30 Jan 2024 8:07pmCongrats to Dave McNamara - hereby dubbed the KNOWINGEST KNOW IT ALL of Saintsational
:mrgreen:
User avatar
spiral3
Club Player
Posts: 187
Joined: Wed 14 Sep 2011 7:37pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 89 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1682415Post spiral3 »

Dave McNamara wrote:Along with The Battle, his time will come.
as long as he doesn't head to Hawthorn in the next couple of years, pretty strong family connection to the Hawks
hopefully the Saints win/have won them over and he stays with us


User avatar
ace
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10781
Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 828 times

Re: Rowan Marshall

Post: # 1682440Post ace »

SMS wrote:Sell longer and hickey for next year round 2's.
They are useless let some other club get fooled into em.
Meanwhile build marshall and Pearce. Both taller and can go forward. Keep holmes as absolute back up for next 3 years.

The problem I see with both Longer and Hickey is you go into the game hoping , hoping, hoping they can hold their own.
Even getting beaten, so long as it is not overwhelmingly so, is an acceptable outcome.
If you want to win a premiership you have to be expecting your ruckman to beat his opponent.


The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.

If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
Post Reply