Team lineup under ratts

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Post: # 1807529Post Teflon »

Ghost Like wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:42pm Fair enough, time will tell. I think a change of voice and settling in a position will do wonders. I think he actually does have a dip, I also believe he makes great position but becomes a victim of poor decisions and rushed kicks by others.

I'll split the difference and say he's somewhere between Barlow and Mundy. No disgrace not being a Bont or Fyfe, they are freaks, Blake is not.
Sensible approach at least see what does under a different voice.


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Post: # 1807535Post saintbob »

B.M wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 11:14pm Not really, he lacks competitiveness and aggression, he cruises around the ground waiting for someone else to give him the ball.

Hopefully another club, preferably Freo see value in him and cough up a good trade for him.

I was a bit of a fan, not ridiculous like some people calling him GOAT or the next Bont/Fyfe.

But I’ve watched him closely recently, he lacks the will to impose himself on the contest, and does not run both ways. So, more like Michael Barlow than Fyfe
Seriously, the whole f****** team lacked competitiveness and aggression under Richo.
Let’s see what a new coach can get out of him before we sign his papers


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Everyone here has seen countless players come and go over the years.

We’ve seen early draft picks and high profile trades fail.

Rookies that never came through.

Over time you get a feel for someone that comes to the club that is a little bit special.

That is Blake Acres.

We aren’t fabricating some self indulgent fantasy. It’s not guess work.

Of course, we could all be wrong. But it burns when we never get to find out.



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Re: Team lineup under ratts

Post: # 1807550Post ace »

desertsaint wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 8:06pm the only downside is that he may well coach for results not development, in the hope of getting the main gig. if he seriously isn't interested then he'll play youth.
Quite likely he will coach for wins in an attempt to secure the job permanently.
But what the club really needs is for those players close to being axed to be given the chance to show what they have got, forget the result.


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ace wrote:
desertsaint wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 8:06pm the only downside is that he may well coach for results not development, in the hope of getting the main gig. if he seriously isn't interested then he'll play youth.
Quite likely he will coach for wins in an attempt to secure the job permanently.
But what the club really needs is for those players close to being axed to be given the chance to show what they have got, forget the result.
Why can’t it be both?

Try new things AND get wins?


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Re: Team lineup under ratts

Post: # 1807553Post shanegrambeau »

I’m excited to imagine. Richos legacy vibe is good, Ratten will be hungry, players will be up. Curious to see what happens to Newnes. Ratto can’t really fall on the “play the kids” so I am keen to see whether Ratto shows us a skeleton or improvises a more bits and pieces approach, trying this and that.


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Firstly, I want Ratts to get the job. He was the coach who gave HARVEY a shot as assistant coach. He seems like someone who respected st Kilda players.

Secondly, for team selection, I’d look at his Carlton record. He was heavy on quality small forwards, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Gresham moves to the forward line again. He got Eddie going initially and I think he will really push the small forwards.

He also focused on the running types, so might still keep McKenzie over White but certainly won’t play DMac in the forward line.


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Re: Team lineup under ratts

Post: # 1807562Post StPeter »

older saint wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 8:00pm Based on performances last week

Out: Sinclair,
In: Langlands
Although not up to his best games, Sinclair had 14 possessions in little over 60 per cent game time, equal to around 20 if he had the same TOG as most other players.

I would rather have 14 of his disposals to any 20 of most of out players as he is one of our most creative users of the ball. There are many players who should be dropped

before Sinclair.


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Will Ratten have any/ a lot of say in the team selection or will the match committee stifle his picks?


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StPeter wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 2:15am
older saint wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 8:00pm Based on performances last week

Out: Sinclair,
In: Langlands
Although not up to his best games, Sinclair had 14 possessions in little over 60 per cent game time, equal to around 20 if he had the same TOG as most other players.

I would rather have 14 of his disposals to any 20 of most of out players as he is one of our most creative users of the ball. There are many players who should be dropped

before Sinclair.
Sinclair, another who plateaued two years ago after developing nicely. The same as Newnes. For two years now I've watched both get games wondering what position they actually play and for what purpose.

I've seen enough of both for 2019. Let's have a look at Langlands and White for the last 6 games.


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Jacks Back wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:15am Will Ratten have any/ a lot of say in the team selection or will the match committee stifle his picks?
I hope so, otherwise who makes up the selection committee.


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Post: # 1807649Post bigcarl »

Jacks Back wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 9:15am Will Ratten have any/ a lot of say in the team selection or will the match committee stifle his picks?

I tell you what, if the selection committee doesn’t give the coach the team he wants then it should be sacked. Start next season with a clean slate


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Post: # 1807699Post skeptic »

Boy you can just see the new war starting can’t you

Two horrible seasons aren’t enough to prove Richo can’t coach but no significant change in the last 6 rounds will prove that we were harsh all along.

Looking forward to that discussion


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According to Champion Data (fantasy football, whatever that is?) we have 8 players who are above average - including Savage, Armitage, Webster, Membrey and Sinclair

What a load of nonsense Champion Data and fantasy football are


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And Josh Battle is “poor” along with Coffield and McCartin


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Post: # 1807706Post DJ Higgins »

Give ratten a Chance to have an impact. The team has been trained to play a certain way, it will take time to play differently. All I hope is that player go back to their natural game and play in their best positions.

Also I hope he plays the best players based on form not on favouritism


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B.M wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 8:09pm Did Langlands dominate at Sandy?
He was very good.

"Sam Rowe did his chances of a senior call-up no harm, amassing 24 hit-outs, 17 disposals and a game-high eight tackles against ruckmen Zac Smith (27 hit-outs) and Darcy Fort (17).

His efforts gave midfielders Doulton Langlands (20 disposals), Stephen Tahana (24), Sam Fox (23) and Sandringham skipper Brede Seccull (27) opportunities to launch from the stoppages."


...........from saints.com


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Ape_Man wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 12:55am Everyone here has seen countless players come and go over the years.

We’ve seen early draft picks and high profile trades fail.

Rookies that never came through.

Over time you get a feel for someone that comes to the club that is a little bit special.

That is Blake Acres.

We aren’t fabricating some self indulgent fantasy. It’s not guess work.

Of course, we could all be wrong. But it burns when we never get to find out.
He will f***** kill it this week

I just hope Ratts sees what we do and gives him an opportunity to shine

Lazy my arse. They're saying similar s*** about Nat Fyfe.

Stick it up 'em Blake


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Post: # 1807718Post cwrcyn »

I rhink most would agree that the players who would be most worried are Acres, Newnes, Sinclair, and McKenzie. I expect one or two of those will not play this week


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Post: # 1807723Post Beno88 »

There are 23 players at St Kilda who have only ever played an AFL match under Richardson. It'll be interesting to see how they respond to a new coach. It'll answer a lot of questions about several players, and should make list management a little clearer come the end of the season. Selection under Ratten will give an early insight.


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cwrcyn wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 4:00pm I rhink most would agree that the players who would be most worried are Acres, Newnes, Sinclair, and McKenzie. I expect one or two of those will not play this week
Maybe three. I think Newnes played ok. Hind could find himself in trouble though as could Membrey.


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saynta wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2019 3:33pm
B.M wrote: Tue 16 Jul 2019 8:09pm Did Langlands dominate at Sandy?
He was very good.

"Sam Rowe did his chances of a senior call-up no harm, amassing 24 hit-outs, 17 disposals and a game-high eight tackles against ruckmen Zac Smith (27 hit-outs) and Darcy Fort (17).

His efforts gave midfielders Doulton Langlands (20 disposals), Stephen Tahana (24), Sam Fox (23) and Sandringham skipper Brede Seccull (27) opportunities to launch from the stoppages."


...........from saints.com
Selecting Sam Rowe would be completely pointless.


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Re: Team lineup under ratts

Post: # 1807735Post B.M »

Wtf called Nat Fyfe lazy

A competitive beast!!! Who attacks the the contest like an animal.

Blake has been at Stk Since 2013 which is 6 seasons

In Nat Fyfe’s 4th Season he won the Brownlow

It’s a silly comparison.

Mundy is a leader of men, and one of the most consistent players in the game.


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