Ex-Sainter Mordi Bromberg in the news

[Enrico_Misso]

Excellent footballer

I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly

Not even a GOP

That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.

[PADDLEPOP1001]

Morsi Bromberg was a champion junior player & a very good senior player for a couple of years before he left us to go after his chosen career path!

[ace]

Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.

Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.

I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.

[saintkid]

Excellent footballer

I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly

Not even a GOP

That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.

My father said his 1980 season was the best as he played mostly in the seniors, He was an ok player but was no stand out. Only played about 3 games the following year and that's about it with his VFL playing days.
Importantly, he focused on his exceptional law career and should be extremely proud of his accomplishments. Was a well spoken, level-headed guy from a good family. Good on him.

[ace]

Excellent footballer

I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly

Not even a GOP

That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.

My father said his 1980 season was the best as he played mostly in the seniors, He was an ok player but was no stand out. Only played about 3 games the following year and that's about it with his VFL player.
Importantly, he focused on his exceptional law career and should be extremely proud of his accomplishments. Was a well spoken, level-headed guy from a good family. Good on him.

So now we are drafting judges as well as footballers based on "comes from a good family".

[saintkid]

Excellent footballer

I remember him playing a few games, never really did much, pretty average if I recall correctly

Not even a GOP

That is harsh.
I remember Mordi as one of our better players for a couple of years.
Wasn't brilliant but was very reliable.

My father said his 1980 season was the best as he played mostly in the seniors, He was an ok player but was no stand out. Only played about 3 games the following year and that's about it with his VFL player.
Importantly, he focused on his exceptional law career and should be extremely proud of his accomplishments. Was a well spoken, level-headed guy from a good family. Good on him.

So now we are drafting judges as well as footballers based on "comes from a good family".

[BackFromUSA]

Bleeding heart it seems.

Good. More power to him.

Not good when it influences his decisions. Call me old-fashioned but I like a judiciary that makes decisions based on the law rather than on personal political preference. If they’re genuine refugees under the law then let them stay. But if they’re not, apply the law.

I reckon the bloody moderator here could learn a lesson or two from this.

[degruch]

Bleeding heart it seems.

Good. More power to him.

Not good when it influences his decisions. Call me old-fashioned but I like a judiciary that makes decisions based on the law rather than on personal political preference. If they’re genuine refugees under the law then let them stay. But if they’re not, apply the law.

Gee, maybe I missed something here, but isn't he a judge? Sounds to me like he is actually applying the law, one that the government is very good at twisting when it suits them. It would be a mistake to assume the Australian government works within our laws.

[SemperFidelis]

Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

[Linton Lodger]

He's what you call an Activist Judge.

His pitiful decision on behalf of a handful of union members, caused Toyota to stop manufacturing here.

How many jobs lost?

[Linton Lodger]

Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".

He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.

[Ghost Like]

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

The fact your 2nd sentence begins with the qualification on two factors, the system & humanity, actually suggests we cannot be confident.

I believe it's naive believing political agendas cannot be pushed through the judiciary when the judiciary is itself a beast driven by politics, favouritism, nepotism and agendas.

[spert]

Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".

He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.

You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.

[saynta]

Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.

Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.

I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.

Not much chop at either AFAIC.
Left wing bleeding heart.

[saynta]

Bleeding heart it seems.

Good. More power to him.

Not good when it influences his decisions. Call me old-fashioned but I like a judiciary that makes decisions based on the law rather than on personal political preference. If they’re genuine refugees under the law then let them stay. But if they’re not, apply the law.

I reckon the bloody moderator here could learn a lesson or two from this.

[Linton Lodger]

Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".

He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.

You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.

No, you need Judges that aren't idealogues or political. Both point to a diminished ability for critical thought, not to mention a diminished intellect.

[Gershwin]

Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.

Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.

I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.

Notmuch chop at either AFAIC.
Left wing bleeding heart.

Love watching a small man with a secateur trying to cut down a tall poppy.

[saynta]

Massive lefty so expect finding accordingly.

Bromberg unsuccessfully contested Australian Labor Party (ALP) pre-selection for the electorate of Burke.
He was defeated by Brendan O'Connor, brother of CFMMEU union goon Michael O'Connor.
He was appointed to the Federal Court by the Rudd Labor government.
He presided in the controversial Bolt Case in the Federal Court, in which columnist Andrew Bolt was found to be in breach of Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.

I have no confidence in him as a judge.
He was a better footballer than a judge.

Notmuch chop at either AFAIC.
Left wing bleeding heart.

Love watching a small man with a secateur trying to cut down a tall poppy.

You have no idea how funny I think your post is.

[saynta]

Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".

He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.

You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.

No, you need Judges that aren't idealogues or political. Both point to a diminished ability for critical thought, not to mention a diminished intellect.

100 % correct.

[SemperFidelis]

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

The fact your 2nd sentence begins with the qualification on two factors, the system & humanity, actually suggests we cannot be confident.

I believe it's naive believing political agendas cannot be pushed through the judiciary when the judiciary is itself a beast driven by politics, favouritism, nepotism and agendas.

That’s a pretty bleak view.

I’m not at all naive. Of course political agendas can be pushed through appointments. Of course there are nepotistic appointments. But we have a decent appeals system and an actual ability to change laws that the public thinks don’t work.

People shouldn’t just point to a decision they don’t like and conclude the judge has either a bias or is fulfilling the destiny of his or her political masters. That’s just wrong.

[Ghost Like]

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

The fact your 2nd sentence begins with the qualification on two factors, the system & humanity, actually suggests we cannot be confident.

I believe it's naive believing political agendas cannot be pushed through the judiciary when the judiciary is itself a beast driven by politics, favouritism, nepotism and agendas.

That’s a pretty bleak view.

I’m not at all naive. Of course political agendas can be pushed through appointments. Of course there are nepotistic appointments.

But people can’t just point to a decision they don’t like and conclude the judge has either a bias or is fulfilling the destiny of his or her political masters. That’s just wrong.

So which is it SF? Political agendas can be pushed through appointments OR we can be confident the judiciary here cannot push political agendas.

You can call the view bleak which it is but sadly it is more realistic than idealistic. It is that view that's naive.

Apologies SF, I was not calling you naive.

[SemperFidelis]

I think you missed “without checks”.

Judges sometimes go rogue. But it’s usually pretty hard for 3 or 5 judges to all go rogue together. And with compulsory retirement it’s pretty hard for either side of politics to stack a court like they do in the US.

No offence taken Ghost Like. I readily accept I’m on the idealists’ side when it comes to this issue.

I mostly did not like others potting one of our own.

[sunsaint]

Mordi Bromberg is an excellent judge. He is really well regarded. It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs. He won’t likely have much discretion to exercise here anyway.

This is not the US. Our system is not perfect, and judges are not perfect, but you can be confident that the judiciary here cannot push political agendas without any checks.

"It would be very wrong to assume he will not apply the law to the facts as he finds them because of some perception of his political beliefs".

He's an ALP hack, of course politics will shape his decisions, as they have in the past.

You need some ALP hacks as much as you need LNP nuffies in our legal system..between them, things usually get sorted.

Given the number of lawyers that seek refuge in the liberal party it's amazing there is one alp hack amongst them

[Ghost Like]

I think you missed “without checks”.

Judges sometimes go rogue. But it’s usually pretty hard for 3 or 5 judges to all go rogue together. And with compulsory retirement it’s pretty hard for either side of politics to stack a court like they do in the US.

No offence taken Ghost Like. I readily accept I’m on the idealists’ side when it comes to this issue.

I mostly did not like others potting one of our own.

All good SemperFidelis, I had no doubt where your view was coming from being the defence of one of our own.

I didn't miss "without checks", I just thought it had auto corrected "without cheques".

Yes, I'm very cynical, particularly about some of our bastions and motives of our elected. It's not you, it's me.

[SemperFidelis]

I think you missed “without checks”.

Judges sometimes go rogue. But it’s usually pretty hard for 3 or 5 judges to all go rogue together. And with compulsory retirement it’s pretty hard for either side of politics to stack a court like they do in the US.

No offence taken Ghost Like. I readily accept I’m on the idealists’ side when it comes to this issue.

I mostly did not like others potting one of our own.

All good SemperFidelis, I had no doubt where your view was coming from being the defence of one of our own.

I didn't miss "without checks", I just thought it had auto corrected "without cheques".

Yes, I'm very cynical, particularly about some of our bastions and motives of our elected. It's not you, it's me.

LOL. I’d be more concerned about the brown paper bag. Or the Aldi bag.

They’re back in vogue, I hear.