Cooked
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- WellardSaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8380
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
- Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
- Has thanked: 1907 times
- Been thanked: 883 times
Re: Cooked
After we let Ryder go, the club's coaches (and they've changed obv in the meantime) didn't care (seemingly) about our glaring ruck situation.
They seemed to think Roma can do it and get a half-cocked chopout from anybody over 190 cms...
That's NOT good enough, for me.
Salary cap is a delicate balancing act.
They wanted Bonner, Henry, etc so decided to ignore any 2nd ruck.
Hoping that Windy and maybe Owens+Pou could rove to opp ruckmen.
Crouch, Ross, Steele in our midfield aren't Lachy Neale or Patrick Cripps, too slow.
Are they playing the long game and expecting our developing young guys will give that bite in the clearances, so we don't need another ruckman
They seemed to think Roma can do it and get a half-cocked chopout from anybody over 190 cms...
That's NOT good enough, for me.
Salary cap is a delicate balancing act.
They wanted Bonner, Henry, etc so decided to ignore any 2nd ruck.
Hoping that Windy and maybe Owens+Pou could rove to opp ruckmen.
Crouch, Ross, Steele in our midfield aren't Lachy Neale or Patrick Cripps, too slow.
Are they playing the long game and expecting our developing young guys will give that bite in the clearances, so we don't need another ruckman
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23243
- Joined: Sat 13 Mar 2004 11:44pm
- Has thanked: 741 times
- Been thanked: 1798 times
Re: Cooked
To be fair they’ve gone after rucks - not landed themWellardSaint wrote: ↑Tue 02 Apr 2024 1:57am After we let Ryder go, the club's coaches (and they've changed obv in the meantime) didn't care (seemingly) about our glaring ruck situation.
They seemed to think Roma can do it and get a half-cocked chopout from anybody over 190 cms...
That's NOT good enough, for me.
Salary cap is a delicate balancing act.
They wanted Bonner, Henry, etc so decided to ignore any 2nd ruck.
Hoping that Windy and maybe Owens+Pou could rove to opp ruckmen.
Crouch, Ross, Steele in our midfield aren't Lachy Neale or Patrick Cripps, too slow.
Are they playing the long game and expecting our developing young guys will give that bite in the clearances, so we don't need another ruckman
Xerri
De Koning
Draper
Bombers offered Goldstein extra years/coaching opportunities
It’s not like we’ve not tried
Heath may not make it …I’d hit State League mid season if possible
“Yeah….nah””
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5052
- Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
- Has thanked: 1444 times
- Been thanked: 1495 times
Re: Cooked
Inevitable is right. Set your watches by it.
The cruelty is the occasional effort like against the Pies.
Even the most ardent pollyanna and Black Knight might recognise what that loss means.
Membrey is easily nullified if the opponent concentrates.
Forwards were such in name only.
We are compromised in rucking contests.
Even if good coaching moves are identified they are dismissed.
Most of the players have not been coached to react well under finals like pressure and we probably don't have the team resilience to not go into panic mode. (Why did Pies win so many close games last year and we have already lost 2).
Pound for pound we should have beaten Essendon but never looked like it after Sincs butchered that early chance. We didn't play to our strengths, let Scott and Essendon dictate the course of the game. You and I knew the oppo match winner was Stringer and we let it happen.
We keep being reminded it is a brutal comp but we don't play that way or smart.
Sure we will improve over the season as better players dribble back in and gradually get match fitness. But blowing 4 points like that transports us back to the time of Richo.
But just shrug and know, well that's silly old Saints. Don't want to hurt Riley's feelings by suggesting kicking to opponent rucks as often as possible might not be in teams best interests. Surely one of the "leaders" should have gone to him after he did it twice and appeared stunned and said mate have a break, we have proved that doesn't work let's try something else. No, group think, not my job, just get rid of the ball, make it someone else's problem. The essence of a good team.
The cruelty is the occasional effort like against the Pies.
Even the most ardent pollyanna and Black Knight might recognise what that loss means.
Membrey is easily nullified if the opponent concentrates.
Forwards were such in name only.
We are compromised in rucking contests.
Even if good coaching moves are identified they are dismissed.
Most of the players have not been coached to react well under finals like pressure and we probably don't have the team resilience to not go into panic mode. (Why did Pies win so many close games last year and we have already lost 2).
Pound for pound we should have beaten Essendon but never looked like it after Sincs butchered that early chance. We didn't play to our strengths, let Scott and Essendon dictate the course of the game. You and I knew the oppo match winner was Stringer and we let it happen.
We keep being reminded it is a brutal comp but we don't play that way or smart.
Sure we will improve over the season as better players dribble back in and gradually get match fitness. But blowing 4 points like that transports us back to the time of Richo.
But just shrug and know, well that's silly old Saints. Don't want to hurt Riley's feelings by suggesting kicking to opponent rucks as often as possible might not be in teams best interests. Surely one of the "leaders" should have gone to him after he did it twice and appeared stunned and said mate have a break, we have proved that doesn't work let's try something else. No, group think, not my job, just get rid of the ball, make it someone else's problem. The essence of a good team.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4321
- Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
- Location: earth
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1442 times
Re: Cooked
Lyon sees this team as a work in progress, and rightly so. He inherited a team that was way down the pecking order in relation to contention with a worrying lack of emerging talent. The sins of the past (recruitment) had left him with a lopsided list and the focus has shifted to bringing in young talent, which is what we've been crying out for over the past 5 years.
Because of that shift in list strategy, it means we have a number of players who are at the development stage (Owens, Windhager, NWM, Hastie, Wilson,etc that we have certain expectations that won't be met every week
It's a delicate balancing act , so when a host of injuries to senior players hit, we are left exposed.
No need to panic about the medium term because we've put the right things in place regarding recruitment, but in the very short term, injuries are going to challenge us
Because of that shift in list strategy, it means we have a number of players who are at the development stage (Owens, Windhager, NWM, Hastie, Wilson,etc that we have certain expectations that won't be met every week
It's a delicate balancing act , so when a host of injuries to senior players hit, we are left exposed.
No need to panic about the medium term because we've put the right things in place regarding recruitment, but in the very short term, injuries are going to challenge us
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23139
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 9080 times
- Been thanked: 3942 times
Re: Cooked
Kick straight and win our effing games.Yorkeys wrote: ↑Mon 01 Apr 2024 2:08pm I suppose do we (Club/coaches) have a plan. Previous plan was change coaches.
What's the current one.
Blood youngsters, win games, balance between them?
Are some established players beyond dropping Or is it merit based.
What is our realistic aspiration for this year.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 538
- Joined: Sun 27 May 2018 9:49pm
- Has thanked: 110 times
- Been thanked: 128 times
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13311
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 669 times
- Been thanked: 1957 times
Re: Cooked
I guess he will just do the best he can and move on for next weekAnnoyedsaint wrote: ↑Sun 07 Apr 2024 5:39pm Bump.
What a bunch of frauds.
What’s Ross going to dribble on about this week?
- Otiman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8725
- Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
- Location: Elsewhere
- Has thanked: 197 times
- Been thanked: 648 times
Re: Cooked
Annoyedsaint wrote: ↑Sun 07 Apr 2024 5:39pm Bump.
What a bunch of frauds.
What’s Ross going to dribble on about this week?
Apologies to those triggered.
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17028
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3647 times
- Been thanked: 2918 times
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13311
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 669 times
- Been thanked: 1957 times