saintsational gets a rap on official site

[asiu]

http://shop.afl.com.au/saints/category. ... ets&Page=1









buy some tix ya cheapskates

[saint66au]

Already have dont you worry

Sue 'em I reckon for unauthorised use of the name ;-)

[evertonfc]

Pfftt

Check out the clubs merchandise from 1995-98.

Every second item had 'Saintsational' on it.

[GrumpyOne]

Already have dont you worry

Sue 'em I reckon for unauthorised use of the name ;-)

Why not?

As it is a registered internet domain, we also have rights over the name for merchandise etc.

The forum has been very lax in not putting out its own branded gear, check some of the other sites, they are marketing their own stuff and making profits. Will stop someone putting his hand in his pocket to keep running this forum.

Time we started getting professional on this forum. There are many things we could be doing that are being vetoed because one person wants to retain absolute power.

If we don't use the Saintsational name, it will be belittled by every Tom, Dick or Archie useing it, and a valuable opportunity will be lost forever.

Wake up guys, time we entered the 21st century.

[Beej]

What are the raffle tickets for?

New footballs? Boots? Socks? Electricity?

[saintdooley]

Already have dont you worry

Sue 'em I reckon for unauthorised use of the name ;-)

Why not?

As it is a registered internet domain, we also have rights over the name for merchandise etc.

The forum has been very lax in not putting out its own branded gear, check some of the other sites, they are marketing their own stuff and making profits. Will stop someone putting his hand in his pocket to keep running this forum.

Time we started getting professional on this forum. There are many things we could be doing that are being vetoed because one person wants to retain absolute power.

If we don't use the Saintsational name, it will be belittled by every Tom, Dick or Archie useing it, and a valuable opportunity will be lost forever.

Wake up guys, time we entered the 21st century.

yup!
www.thepowerfromport.com
they have banners in their CS saying "power-from-port" hats for sale, and tshirts, and they also sell the heritage jumper on their site!
its really good!

[riccardo]

We could copyright it, I guess.

[Beej]

If we could get some St Kilda scarves made with "saintsational.com" on them or something, I would definitely buy one.

[GrumpyOne]

We could copyright it, I guess.

No need to. The domain registration gives us sole use of the name Saintsational.

[Stephen Theodore]

GrumpyOne wrote:

As it is a registered internet domain, we also have rights over the name for merchandise etc.

The forum has been very lax in not putting out its own branded gear, check some of the other sites, they are marketing their own stuff and making profits. Will stop someone putting his hand in his pocket to keep running this forum.

Time we started getting professional on this forum. There are many things we could be doing that are being vetoed because one person wants to retain absolute power.

If we don't use the Saintsational name, it will be belittled by every Tom, Dick or Archie useing it, and a valuable opportunity will be lost forever.

Wake up guys, time we entered the 21st century.

Agree

[saintbrat]

mmmmmmm- what happened to the caps?

and the T shirt??
and the ???

its the follow through that sometimes gets mucked up=- as they say the world is full or good intentions

[mightysainters]

whatever happened to the owner and founder of this site damien? Hasn't been heard from for a long while...

[saintsrus]

Print some tshirts and ill buy!

[GrumpyOne]

Print some tshirts and ill buy!

Most of us will.

But the owner of the site owns the name, and nothing can be done without his OK.

[barks4eva]

Sue 'em I reckon for unauthorised use of the name ;-)

Perhaps we could ask Grant for his input and advice on how best to sue the St.Kilda football club

[battye]

We could copyright it, I guess.

No need to. The domain registration gives us sole use of the name Saintsational.

That is absolute rubbish mate.

But the owner of the site owns the name, and nothing can be done without his OK.

Out of courtesy, you wouldn't do anything without the owners consent. However, use of a domain gives you absolutely no legal rights to the name. Only a trademark, patent or copyright will give you that sort of protection.

[GrumpyOne]

We could copyright it, I guess.

No need to. The domain registration gives us sole use of the name Saintsational.

That is absolute rubbish mate.

But the owner of the site owns the name, and nothing can be done without his OK.

Out of courtesy, you wouldn't do anything without the owners consent. However, use of a domain gives you absolutely no legal rights to the name. Only a trademark, patent or copyright will give you that sort of protection.

My "absolute rubbish" is actually spot on, mate.

Try registering a business name or a trademark in Victoria with the name "Saintsational".

I know cos I've tried it.

The registration was not permitted because the domain name has already been registered.

And you can take legal action against anyone who uses your domain name for other commercial purposes. A bit more difficult than the other methods you mention, but still a legal possibility.

But like all commercial litigation, you need very deep pockets to make it stick.

So possible, but difficult.

Ther point still remains though, with proper marketing, the saintsational brand will not only pay for the hosting of this forum, but state of the art servers and someone to manage it full time.

Under the current ownership, we are missing out on the opportunity to make this forum bigger and better, and be content with seeing the Saintsational name used by all and sundry for their own profit.

[GrumpyOne]

Sue 'em I reckon for unauthorised use of the name ;-)

Perhaps we could ask Grant for his input and advice on how best to sue the St.Kilda football club

I'm surprised you didn't weave a John Howard reference in there. Would have been just as obtuse, and just as non-sensical.

[battye]

My "absolute rubbish" is actually spot on, mate.

Try registering a business name or a trademark in Victoria with the name "Saintsational".

I know cos I've tried it.

The registration was not permitted because the domain name has already been registered.

And you can take legal action against anyone who uses your domain name for other commercial purposes. A bit more difficult than the other methods you mention, but still a legal possibility.

But like all commercial litigation, you need very deep pockets to make it stick.

So possible, but difficult.

You were conned mate.

Domain name registration has nothing to do with business name registration.

Domain Names
A Business Name is the name under which business is carried out, whereas a Domain Name is the Internet address for connection to a business's website.

CAV does not register Domain Names.

Although a Business Name and a Domain Name may be similar, they are used for different purposes, therefore the respective registration offices have no connection or association. CAV does not consider similar Domain Names when assessing a Business Name for registration.

CAV is not responsible for registering a Business Name that may infringe the ownership of a Domain Name. Business Name applicants are advised to contact a registered Domain Name service to check for any similar Domain Names.

[Oh When the Saints]

But saintsational must be already registered as a business name as well as a domain name

[battye]

But saintsational must be already registered as a business name as well as a domain name

No, not in Victoria anyway.

As I said, the two are completely different entities. You don't need to register the business name to be able to register the domain name, or vice versa.

[GrumpyOne]

My "absolute rubbish" is actually spot on, mate.

Try registering a business name or a trademark in Victoria with the name "Saintsational".

I know cos I've tried it.

The registration was not permitted because the domain name has already been registered.

And you can take legal action against anyone who uses your domain name for other commercial purposes. A bit more difficult than the other methods you mention, but still a legal possibility.

But like all commercial litigation, you need very deep pockets to make it stick.

So possible, but difficult.

You were conned mate.

Domain name registration has nothing to do with business name registration.

Domain Names
A Business Name is the name under which business is carried out, whereas a Domain Name is the Internet address for connection to a business's website.

CAV does not register Domain Names.

Although a Business Name and a Domain Name may be similar, they are used for different purposes, therefore the respective registration offices have no connection or association. CAV does not consider similar Domain Names when assessing a Business Name for registration.

CAV is not responsible for registering a Business Name that may infringe the ownership of a Domain Name. Business Name applicants are advised to contact a registered Domain Name service to check for any similar Domain Names.

Hmmm.... Thanks for that. i stand corrected.

[Quixote]

Sue 'em I reckon for unauthorised use of the name ;-)

Perhaps we could ask Grant for his input and advice on how best to sue the St.Kilda football club

Best in a while

[Quixote]

However the "Saintsational" push is interesting....

[my les foote]

Forum T-Shirts!

Brilliant idea!

Does anyone have a forum t-shirt from last time round? I'd love to see a photo.