URGENTLY REQUIRED: a bit of MONGREL!

thejiggingsaint · Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:50pm

The best team won no disputing it! But the reality is we need to replace the hardness that went when we lost Hamill, Powell and Baker (will we see him next year?) Too many undoubtedly talented players without the hard edge so necessary in Finals success.
We're not THAT far off being the side we all want to be...but our priority has to be HARDNESS thats what the hawks had over us last night!

Eastern · Post: # 650185Post **Eastern** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:52pm

That "Bit of MONGREL" you speak of????

I little bit or a BIG bit ????????????????? !!

matrix · Post: # 650195Post **matrix** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 12:58pm

cant argue there jiggster
every team needs a hard nut who isnt afraid to dish it out to the line of limit.

why i loved Sammy so much.
god we miss some mongrel

saintsrus · Post: # 650233Post **saintsrus** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 1:23pm

Agreed but it depends on if the umps let you get away with it, they did for Hawthorn, for us they pay frees against for agression

matrix · Post: # 650241Post **matrix** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 1:30pm

saintsrus wrote:Agreed but it depends on if the umps let you get away with it, they did for Hawthorn, for us they pay frees against for agression

its not so much 'dirty tactics' or niggle.....its the head over the footy and hit the body hard kinda s*** we lack.
i mean bally is head over it 24/7
lenny too when he is in there and not running his ass off
we just need a real tough nut of a bastard that has no fear and no second thoughts, but has a controlled temper

BigMart · Post: # 650273Post **BigMart** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:05pm

I'd rather some pace and kicking skills through the middle......our mids can have zero hurt factor at times.....

Hardness is Lenny Hayes, Luke Ball, S.Baker type....win the footy hardness

The type of hit-man stuff is defunct....

matrix · Post: # 650274Post **matrix** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:07pm

hitmen?
dont think anyone wants a snipper bigmart.
just some friggin tough nutz with no fear.

skeptic · Post: # 650284Post **skeptic** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:19pm

howl me down if u want but i think we're a good show for Ben Cousins. Has everything we want as a player (minus the rep)

Gut working hard runner
Excellent disposal both sides
Finals experience
Takes no crap out of no1
Is a leader on the footy field

Guys like Ball and Dal would learn a lot about becoming elite footballers from him and IMO our culture now is strong enough to manage a bad egg which I think he isn't... i think he's passed that too.

plugger66 · Post: # 650288Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:23pm

skeptic wrote:howl me down if u want but i think we're a good show for Ben Cousins. Has everything we want as a player (minus the rep)

Gut working hard runner
Excellent disposal both sides
Finals experience
Takes no crap out of no1
Is a leader on the footy field

Guys like Ball and Dal would learn a lot about becoming elite footballers from him and IMO our culture now is strong enough to manage a bad egg which I think he isn't... i think he's passed that too.

Didnt we have Harvs for all their careers. Not sure they can learn more off Benny compared to Harvs. Also dont think we are close enough to winning a GF to get a 31 year old out of footy for 2 years.

matrix · Post: # 650295Post **matrix** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:26pm

would u take Ben Cousins plugger?
seriously...
do u reckon its worth the risk...?

plugger66 · Post: # 650299Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:29pm

matrixcutter wrote:would u take Ben Cousins plugger?
seriously...
do u reckon its worth the risk...?

No I wouldnt but I dont care about the risk. It is his age that is the problem.

RodKeoghsLoveChild · Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:29pm

Bring back rocket Keogh. He may need to have a decent pre-season as his fitness may not be upto scratch

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matrix · Post: # 650302Post **matrix** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 2:31pm

hmmmm
i reckon he could go another 2 years.
what i am worried is if he is off the 'stuff' hows the body going to react to that.
i preferred kerr not so long ago, but his body is already damaged (shoulders, ankles, foot?)
whens all the draft stuff start anyway?

BakesFan · Post: # 650354Post **BakesFan** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 3:17pm

The boys need to add a bowl of cement to their diet so they can 'harden the FCUK up!'

ozrulestrace · Sun 21 Sep 2008 4:00pm

I'd take Cousins ahead of Kerr.
Cousins has been all the way down and the day is dawning as to what has been going on his life. Yes it is a risk, but we need to take the chance and give him a second chance.
As for Kerr, he hasn't gone past being a player with an alcohol and anger management problem and probably never will.
Send him to Collwingwood and he can get the tours of Melbourne's nightclubs from Didak.

plugger66 · Post: # 650460Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Sep 2008 5:45pm

ozrulestrace wrote:I'd take Cousins ahead of Kerr.
Cousins has been all the way down and the day is dawning as to what has been going on his life. Yes it is a risk, but we need to take the chance and give him a second chance.
As for Kerr, he hasn't gone past being a player with an alcohol and anger management problem and probably never will.
Send him to Collwingwood and he can get the tours of Melbourne's nightclubs from Didak.

Agreed one is 31 and the other is 25. One was banned for a year the other wasnt. One missed nearly 2 years of footy the other missed 6 weeks. Yep no brainer Cousins over Kerr.

TimeToShineFellas · Sun 21 Sep 2008 8:27pm

I don't think we'll get either to be honest!