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You do read the papers sometimes don't you? I don't want to state the obvious but unfortunately Ben Cousins has had a drug addiction which nearly killed him in America. Did you get any news about that? Nimbin does get newspapers doesn't it?Beekay wrote:linz wrote:I wish it was!Beekay wrote:That is a ridiculous statement.linz wrote:Given the number of benders Ben has been on, if he wasn't so fit he'd be dead by now.
No need to wish... unless you are his shadow and have been by his side for the last couple of years.
I just hope we draft him and he's a top player for us. end of story right now!linz wrote:You do read the papers sometimes don't you? I don't want to state the obvious but unfortunately Ben Cousins has had a drug addiction which nearly killed him in America. Did you get any news about that? Nimbin does get newspapers doesn't it?Beekay wrote:linz wrote:I wish it was!Beekay wrote:That is a ridiculous statement.linz wrote:Given the number of benders Ben has been on, if he wasn't so fit he'd be dead by now.
No need to wish... unless you are his shadow and have been by his side for the last couple of years.
Unfortunataly there have been other incidents as well at breatherlizers involving cars, running, swimming.
I know it's very embarrassing 'cause he might become a Saints player but it's the truth.
He deserves a second maybe third maybe fourth chance but this is his last chance. I hope he has the guts to admit to his addiction and has the guts to overcome it.
Personally my opinion is he's had enough chances.linz wrote:You do read the papers sometimes don't you? I don't want to state the obvious but unfortunately Ben Cousins has had a drug addiction which nearly killed him in America. Did you get any news about that? Nimbin does get newspapers doesn't it?Beekay wrote:linz wrote:I wish it was!Beekay wrote:That is a ridiculous statement.linz wrote:Given the number of benders Ben has been on, if he wasn't so fit he'd be dead by now.
No need to wish... unless you are his shadow and have been by his side for the last couple of years.
Unfortunataly there have been other incidents as well at breatherlizers involving cars, running, swimming.
I know it's very embarrassing 'cause he might become a Saints player but it's the truth.
He deserves a second maybe third maybe fourth chance but this is his last chance. I hope he has the guts to admit to his addiction and has the guts to overcome it.
See abovesaintspremiers wrote:I just hope we draft him and he's a top player for us. end of story right now!linz wrote:You do read the papers sometimes don't you? I don't want to state the obvious but unfortunately Ben Cousins has had a drug addiction which nearly killed him in America. Did you get any news about that? Nimbin does get newspapers doesn't it?Beekay wrote:linz wrote:I wish it was!Beekay wrote:That is a ridiculous statement.linz wrote:Given the number of benders Ben has been on, if he wasn't so fit he'd be dead by now.
No need to wish... unless you are his shadow and have been by his side for the last couple of years.
Unfortunataly there have been other incidents as well at breatherlizers involving cars, running, swimming.
I know it's very embarrassing 'cause he might become a Saints player but it's the truth.
He deserves a second maybe third maybe fourth chance but this is his last chance. I hope he has the guts to admit to his addiction and has the guts to overcome it.
Sorry pal, just can't stomach the bloke.saintspremiers wrote:fair enough Iceman, I can't begrudge your personal loss and respect your take on it 100%
Sympathies Iceman.I went to school with and was a friend of one of the brothers of one of the slain policemen.Small and sometimes sad world.Iceman234 wrote:Sorry pal, just can't stomach the bloke.saintspremiers wrote:fair enough Iceman, I can't begrudge your personal loss and respect your take on it 100%
I always wish the best for drug addicts and their recovery, but I HAVE been consistent with Benny.
Also, I don't like being told I have to like him because he may well play for us.
Even if he does, I'm just not gonna like him.
Funny because I knew a bit about Gardi too but always liked his attitude when he came here.
I knew one very well.linz wrote:Sympathies Iceman.I went to school with and was a friend of one of the brothers of one of the slain policemen.Small and sometimes sad world.Iceman234 wrote:Sorry pal, just can't stomach the bloke.saintspremiers wrote:fair enough Iceman, I can't begrudge your personal loss and respect your take on it 100%
I always wish the best for drug addicts and their recovery, but I HAVE been consistent with Benny.
Also, I don't like being told I have to like him because he may well play for us.
Even if he does, I'm just not gonna like him.
Funny because I knew a bit about Gardi too but always liked his attitude when he came here.
linz wrote:You do read the papers sometimes don't you? I don't want to state the obvious but unfortunately Ben Cousins has had a drug addiction which nearly killed him in America. Did you get any news about that? Nimbin does get newspapers doesn't it?Beekay wrote:linz wrote:I wish it was!Beekay wrote:That is a ridiculous statement.linz wrote:Given the number of benders Ben has been on, if he wasn't so fit he'd be dead by now.
No need to wish... unless you are his shadow and have been by his side for the last couple of years.
Unfortunataly there have been other incidents as well at breatherlizers involving cars, running, swimming.
I know it's very embarrassing 'cause he might become a Saints player but it's the truth.
He deserves a second maybe third maybe fourth chance but this is his last chance. I hope he has the guts to admit to his addiction and has the guts to overcome it.
Iceman234 wrote:And it's probably a statement that he is alive because he is fit. Or at least that fitness assists.
No doubt.
PM me and come down to the Footscray Mall with me one day. I'll happily sit with you for a few hours and I'll show you the difference between users who are on heroin, normal speed and ice.
The users who are on ice, we will never run down.They will be hyper, eyes like marbles, even Sam won't get close for Street Talk. They are fast, real fast.
The others who have just hit speed will have pupils like headlights, and will take a minute to take off.
Heroin users won't give a s***, we can book them in for about an hour and they'll still be there. Unless they catch a stolen car to Frankston......
That's interesting pal.Beekay wrote:Iceman234 wrote:And it's probably a statement that he is alive because he is fit. Or at least that fitness assists.
No doubt.
PM me and come down to the Footscray Mall with me one day. I'll happily sit with you for a few hours and I'll show you the difference between users who are on heroin, normal speed and ice.
The users who are on ice, we will never run down.They will be hyper, eyes like marbles, even Sam won't get close for Street Talk. They are fast, real fast.
The others who have just hit speed will have pupils like headlights, and will take a minute to take off.
Heroin users won't give a s***, we can book them in for about an hour and they'll still be there. Unless they catch a stolen car to Frankston......
I know a little myself about drugs mate. I have a liking for psychedelic trance and other forms of electronic music that have a very junkie crowd. Less than two weeks ago I was at a festival and saw someone smoking an ice pipe no less than 4 metres away from me. It's a world familiar to me.
I've seen all sorts of people on all sorts of drugs... including people I know and talk to.
A family friend and a man I considered an uncle while I was growing up just hung himself due to a life brought down by heroin.
I'd be glad to sit down and have a chat and I am sure I could teach you a thing or two about drugs also.
At the end of the day I don't believe you are going to survive just because you hit the gym. And no matter how close Ben has come, I'm sure it would be a similar out come if he was a CEO of a bank.
He might have pushed it because he was a solid unit, and hell if he wasn't a solid unit he might have not gone to such a level. Ya just don't know.
LOL check the last PM I sent you mate.Beekay wrote:Iceman234 wrote:If you are into helping the youth mate, I'm all for it.Beekay wrote:You tell me.
If it is helping the youth.. then give me a time and date after this here examination week of mine.
Iceman234 wrote:Beeks,
go back over some of the older threads and quotes, you'll see Benny has struggled big time.
Google him for a few stories and you'll see he's struggled.
Read stories re his mentor who died... get hold of some coroners reports about his mentor and who he'd been with... get a grip...
I wish any druggie all the best..... just research it... check his TI's with WAPOL.....