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andrewg wrote:If anything he seems less trouble! Seriously Caddy seems a little precious to me, too far to drive to seafood, only wont to go to certain clubs, Jacob other other hand seems content to be a footballer.
I missed where he said it was to far to Seaford. Was that in the paper or on radio?
Didn't even know Josh loved his fish & chips that much
sax wrote:Ben Jacobs has confirmed he wants to return home to Melbourne to continue his AFL career. Full story: http://bit.ly/ST0pwP #AFLTrades
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Just to clarify it's Ben Jacobs. Yet to nominate a preferred destination.
we should trade that little s*** Cripps there- he's no free agent and WCE don't want to play ball with us. It's on the way west so he can fly home and he'd play every game. Win win for us and port and stuff those WCE fools and the homesick Cripps. Cripps for Jacobs.
He's looked alright as a half back flanker and took up a lot of the kick out duties at Port. I'm not sure he's what we're after and he's not a direct replacement for Cripps, who is more of a line-breaking outside mid who can kick goals. I suppose Jacobs could be a replacement for Goddard, obvisously as massive downgrade though. He'd probably cost us a pick around 30 too.
Old Mate wrote:He's looked alright as a half back flanker and took up a lot of the kick out duties at Port. I'm not sure he's what we're after and he's not a direct replacement for Cripps, who is more of a line-breaking outside mid who can kick goals. I suppose Jacobs could be a replacement for Goddard, obvisously as massive downgrade though. He'd probably cost us a pick around 30 too.
Pick 24 or 34 for Jacobs
pick 24 or 34 for Hickey
Cripps & 43 for Brown
Old Mate wrote:He's looked alright as a half back flanker and took up a lot of the kick out duties at Port. I'm not sure he's what we're after and he's not a direct replacement for Cripps, who is more of a line-breaking outside mid who can kick goals. I suppose Jacobs could be a replacement for Goddard, obvisously as massive downgrade though. He'd probably cost us a pick around 30 too.
Pick 24 or 34 for Jacobs
pick 24 or 34 for Hickey
Cripps & 43 for Brown
C'mon Saints, get it done!
Would leave us with 13, 53 & 71 in the strongest draft for a long time… I hope we use 24 & 34 in the draft, I would prefer to see more Markworth/Newnes type-talent at the club…
Jacobs is a 22 yo SANFL player on the fringe of the leageus biggest rabble?
I am happy getting him as he looks like he can play - but just think maybe he is only worth our pick 53?
Jacobs is a neat and tidy player. Nice left foot, can run and carry, and isn't too bad overhead. Would be a very shrewd pick up for the right price. He can find the ball too. I think that we could do with a few players around that 20-22 bracket who've spent a couple of years of development in the system and won't take so long to make the senior side.
Con Gorozidis wrote:Jacobs is a 22 yo SANFL player on the fringe of the leageus biggest rabble?
I am happy getting him as he looks like he can play - but just think maybe he is only worth our pick 53?
He'll be 21 in January & was pick 16 in 2010. He has played 26 games in 2 years, averaging 16 disposals a game & if it wasn't for an injury set back, probably would have played at least half a dozen more this year.
You really think Port will give him up for 53? Don't think so!
A couple of years ago Armo and steven were fringe players. You need to look into what their potential is not the output. The guys we draft are guys who have only played junior footy with a few getting state games. They are just still developing at this point. The average would be around 50 games or 4 years to make regular senior selection so if we draft this year we are looking at that next 5 years to challenge- by then GC and GWS should play in about the next 5 GFs. We are desperately grabbing mature talent to try a quick rebuild before we are out of the race for quite a while.
gringo wrote:A couple of years ago Armo and steven were fringe players. You need to look into what their potential is not the output. The guys we draft are guys who have only played junior footy with a few getting state games. They are just still developing at this point. The average would be around 50 games or 4 years to make regular senior selection so if we draft this year we are looking at that next 5 years to challenge- by then GC and GWS should play in about the next 5 GFs. We are desperately grabbing mature talent to try a quick rebuild before we are out of the race for quite a while.
id like to think we are grabbing older talent 20 22 etc to fill a gap so we dont get out of the race, be nice to think few these guys may turn into guns and we can build side around them in next 5 years with constructive recruiting...
but yes stinks to think gold coast and gws in all these grand finals in future years, bit luck we and other teams can poach sum there palyers
gringo wrote:A couple of years ago Armo and steven were fringe players. You need to look into what their potential is not the output. The guys we draft are guys who have only played junior footy with a few getting state games. They are just still developing at this point. The average would be around 50 games or 4 years to make regular senior selection so if we draft this year we are looking at that next 5 years to challenge- by then GC and GWS should play in about the next 5 GFs. We are desperately grabbing mature talent to try a quick rebuild before we are out of the race for quite a while.
id like to think we are grabbing older talent 20 22 etc to fill a gap so we dont get out of the race, be nice to think few these guys may turn into guns and we can build side around them in next 5 years with constructive recruiting...
but yes stinks to think gold coast and gws in all these grand finals in future years, bit luck we and other teams can poach sum there palyers
they will be a talent pool with heaps leaving for opportunity but the ones they keep should keep them in the hunt for years. I just hope we can find some josh Kennedys etc that are wasted at other clubs and will just take off when we get them. I find it weird that players get written off because they are at a bottom club when in all likelyhood it is the crap clubs that have a pool of highly rated youngsters that want out. Complete lack of logic. A kid that came high in the draft that wants to go home is better than taking the slops from someone like Collingwood.
gringo wrote:A couple of years ago Armo and steven were fringe players. You need to look into what their potential is not the output. The guys we draft are guys who have only played junior footy with a few getting state games. They are just still developing at this point. The average would be around 50 games or 4 years to make regular senior selection so if we draft this year we are looking at that next 5 years to challenge- by then GC and GWS should play in about the next 5 GFs. We are desperately grabbing mature talent to try a quick rebuild before we are out of the race for quite a while.
id like to think we are grabbing older talent 20 22 etc to fill a gap so we dont get out of the race, be nice to think few these guys may turn into guns and we can build side around them in next 5 years with constructive recruiting...
but yes stinks to think gold coast and gws in all these grand finals in future years, bit luck we and other teams can poach sum there palyers
they will be a talent pool with heaps leaving for opportunity but the ones they keep should keep them in the hunt for years. I just hope we can find some josh Kennedys etc that are wasted at other clubs and will just take off when we get them. I find it weird that players get written off because they are at a bottom club when in all likelyhood it is the crap clubs that have a pool of highly rated youngsters that want out. Complete lack of logic. A kid that came high in the draft that wants to go home is better than taking the slops from someone like Collingwood.
crack hore from kingscross would be better than collingwoods slops
Some people are overstating the potential impact of Jacobs-saw a fair bit of him in SA over 2 years and he has struggled to cement a position in a very ordinary side-mostly played across half back which doesn't appear to be a real area of need for Saints
lucasro wrote:Some people are overstating the potential impact of Jacobs-saw a fair bit of him in SA over 2 years and he has struggled to cement a position in a very ordinary side-mostly played across half back which doesn't appear to be a real area of need for Saints
I watched him a fair bit too! You must of watched different games to what I did!
lucasro wrote:Some people are overstating the potential impact of Jacobs-saw a fair bit of him in SA over 2 years and he has struggled to cement a position in a very ordinary side-mostly played across half back which doesn't appear to be a real area of need for Saints
I watched him a fair bit too! You must of watched different games to what I did!
I reckon we should offer whatever we get for Ray... Late second rounder should do it. Remember he was pick 16 in a compromised draft, so push that 16 out to 26 I'd say when recruited. He was recruited when GC got all their kids wasn't he?
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lucasro wrote:Some people are overstating the potential impact of Jacobs-saw a fair bit of him in SA over 2 years and he has struggled to cement a position in a very ordinary side-mostly played across half back which doesn't appear to be a real area of need for Saints
I watched him a fair bit too! You must of watched different games to what I did!
Well it will all come down to what games the St Kilda recruiting team have been watching.
lucasro wrote:Some people are overstating the potential impact of Jacobs-saw a fair bit of him in SA over 2 years and he has struggled to cement a position in a very ordinary side-mostly played across half back which doesn't appear to be a real area of need for Saints
I watched him a fair bit too! You must of watched different games to what I did!
Well it will all come down to what games the St Kilda recruiting team have been watching.
Does Jacobs offer more than Stevens? We are in talks with WC so I'd think it would be easier to get him over to us...
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I'd take Jacobs but wouldn't give up pick 24 let alone pick 13. I don't see him being any/much better than Ross, Ledger or Curren in 2013 so he's not a priority, but would be a worthy addition to the list if cheap.