OFFICIAL TEAM (when known) discussion thread

saint66au · Post: # 558551Post **saint66au** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:37pm

Please post all discussion here..ta

saintsrus · Post: # 558555Post **saintsrus** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:42pm

Cant wait till Ox and Francis are back at 5 Sen, they normally know by now

Ralphy · Post: # 558556Post **Ralphy** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:42pm

RICHMOND v ST KILDA
RICHMOND
B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Chris Hyde, Jay Schulz, Jordan McMahon
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Chris Newman, Adam Pattison, Matt White
F: Nathan Brown, Jack Riewoldt, Graham Polak
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Richard Tambling, Mitch Morton, Shane Edwards, Luke McGuane
Emg: Daniel Jackson, Trent Cotchin, Kayne Pettifer
No change

ST KILDA
B: Matt Maguire, Max Hudghton, Jason Gram
HB: Steven Baker, Sam Fisher, Brendon Goddard
C: Sean Dempster, Luke Ball, Shane Birss
HF: Nick Dal Santo, Nick Riewoldt, Robert Harvey
F: Fraser Gehrig, Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne
Foll: Michael Gardiner, Lenny Hayes, Leigh Montagna
I/C: Charlie Gardiner, Xavier Clarke, Adam Schneider, David Armitage
Emg: Raphael Clarke, Jarryd Allen, Ben McEvoy
In: Gehrig, Gardiner, Schneider
Out: Michael Rix, Leigh Fisher, Jason Blake

Ralphy · Post: # 558562Post **Ralphy** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:45pm

actually like the ins & outs,

except who will go on richo....will we see Roo Vs Richo

saintsRrising · Thu 01 May 2008 6:46pm

I think Dempster is on Richo...

Saintschampions08 · Thu 01 May 2008 6:47pm

ralphysaints35 wrote:actually like the ins & outs,

except who will go on richo....will we see Roo Vs Richo

So, explain to me...what has Gehrig done so far this year, to actually deserve a recall?

Mr Magic · Post: # 558565Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:47pm

Well bono was spot on.
The Emergencies are interesting.
McEvoy, Allen and Raph.
SO if anything happens to M.Gardiner before Sat night then Big Mac will make his AFL debut?

Looks like Dempster will play on Richo if he plays up the ground as he has the last couple of weeks, in the role Blake has traditionally played previously.

Spinner · Post: # 558566Post **Spinner** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:48pm

I love the emergencies.....We look like such a strong team now.

Dan Warna · Post: # 558568Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:49pm

not one of the dropped named as an emergency.

looks good on paper, lets see how they go.

grats on raph to get names as an emergency

the kid has a tonne of talent.

plugger66 · Post: # 558569Post **plugger66** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:49pm

Dont want to a dampner on things but they are still training so Schneider and MG are no certainties yet.

starsign · Post: # 558571Post **starsign** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:51pm

will they line up with kozi & G there?
who will take Richo? bit of a surprize no Blake

Ralphy · Post: # 558572Post **Ralphy** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:51pm

plugger66 wrote:Dont want to a dampner on things but they are still training so Schneider and MG are no certainties yet.

.

are they training at the moment?

how did they look on tuesday?

borderbarry · Thu 01 May 2008 6:51pm

I doubt Dempster will be better than Blake.

Mr Magic · Post: # 558574Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:51pm

Saintschampions08 wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:actually like the ins & outs,

except who will go on richo....will we see Roo Vs Richo
So, explain to me...what has Gehrig done so far this year, to actually deserve a recall?

He apparently kicked a very good point in Tassie last week.

iwantmeseats · Thu 01 May 2008 6:52pm

s***, Im really worried about fraser, and Im much more sympathetic to him know with the whole arthritis issue. But you know., as someone else said, he isnt in the best of form and once that ball hits the ground....

Would love to see him have a big game and get some confidence back. But more importantly than a bag of goals, I want to see him at least put some hard yards from a defensive point of view.

saintspremiers · Thu 01 May 2008 6:52pm

how did Blake get dropped instead of Goose. Didn't Blake play quite OK last week, whilst Goose has shown NOTHING this year so far...

How did a horribly out of form Gtrain get in? Does he think
we can monster Richmond like previous years??

FFS Lyon, what message does that send out to the team?

Reputation, reputation, reputation (sorry from 2 years ago FFS!)

FFS wake up Lyon!

NB. I look forward to Big Mac's debut with the (no doubt) late withdrawal of Gardy, that's a positive either way!

Wollongong_saint · Thu 01 May 2008 6:52pm

Saintschampions08 wrote:
So, explain to me...what has Gehrig done so far this year, to actually deserve a recall?

It's not a matter of what he has done......it's a matter what what he could potentially do. If he had been injured up until now he would have come back in straight away and nobody would have minded......I think it's crazy to leave Gehrig out of the team. He is not the reason we have played badly this year, we were just as bad if not worse when he was out....he is the X-FACTOR!!!

iwantmeseats · Thu 01 May 2008 6:55pm

No he isnt THE reason we are running on the smell of a oily rag . But he is a big part of the reason in recent times why we are one of the highest ranking teams in the ease of the ball coming out of our 50. This is more important for him to fix than kicking 5 or whatever. It would just be a band aid suedo fix, it is richmond after all, not to under rate them...

For me, Ill be watching fraser very closely for his tackling and chasing, I really dont care how many he kicks.

Wollongong_saint · Thu 01 May 2008 6:55pm

iwantmeseats wrote:But more importantly than a bag of goals, I want to see him at least put some hard yards from a defensive point of view.

All of the attention on forward pressure is really getting to me. Fraser Gehrig is a full forward, he kicks goals and that is something we desperately need. All of this "the game is changing, blah blah blah" that we hear in the media (and vomit out ourselves) is just talk, there is no reason we can't "change the game back with a style of football we all know can win games.

Huzzad · Post: # 558580Post **Huzzad** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:56pm

Saintschampions08 wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:actually like the ins & outs,

except who will go on richo....will we see Roo Vs Richo
So, explain to me...what has Gehrig done so far this year, to actually deserve a recall?

Well 7 goals in 3 games is usually a good effort, plus he has booted two bags of 5 the last couple of times we played Richmond. Like they said, they always panned to drop Fraze for a few games, and admitedly, the new game plan hasn't worked.

Good feeling the big fella will be firing on Sat night.

Ralphy · Post: # 558581Post **Ralphy** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:57pm

& now im even happier!

its televised on channel ten and live YAY!
haha

but nah GO G!!!!

hotdish · Post: # 558583Post **hotdish** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:57pm

saintspremiers wrote:how did Blake get dropped instead of Goose. Didn't Blake play quite OK last week, whilst Goose has shown NOTHING this year so far...

How did a horribly out of form Gtrain get in? Does he think
we can monster Richmond like previous years??

FFS Lyon, what message does that send out to the team?

Reputation, reputation, reputation (sorry from 2 years ago FFS!)

FFS wake up Lyon!

NB. I look forward to Big Mac's debut with the (no doubt) late withdrawal of Gardy, that's a positive either way!

To answer your questions:

Blake is not a key position defender so why compare the two? Is there another key defender in the magoos who missed out? Gwilt or Ferguson?!?

G TRAIN is not 'Horribly' out of form. Its the delivery which is pretty bad. Yes, he didn't kick a bag in the VFL but he set numerous goals up and did the 1%ers. He's a 2 time Coleman medalist FFS. If our coaching staff can get him 1 on 1 in the goalsquare, he will kick 5 goals easy.

As i've said in other posts, you can't have Blake, Baker, L Fisher and Dempster in the same team. They are all taggers/defenders and make our team SLLLOOWWW and one-dimensional.

Great Selections - finally we have a Balanced team - youth (Armitage) and more speedy and balanced team!!!

Easy win coming up! Saints by 6-7 goals! BOOKMARK IT!

Wollongong_saint · Thu 01 May 2008 6:57pm

If forward pressure is really so important in "the modern game" then why don't we just trade away all of our attacking players and play defenders in the forward line? That would make for exciting football.

saintsRrising · Thu 01 May 2008 6:58pm

2 talls out for 2 talls
1 medium for a small..

Plus importantly...

Out : two taggers for two attacking players
+ one attcking ruckman for a defensive ruckman.

So the balance looks a lot better to me.

starsign · Post: # 558586Post **starsign** » Thu 01 May 2008 6:58pm

recon we could see Kozi CHF and Roo go for a run
not convinced they will go again with
kozi and G alongside
Chips a chance on Richo