Michael Gardiner was great

perfectionist · Sun 04 May 2008 12:21am

I thought his ruck work was exceptional and probably was responsible for the win. He played more time than planned I reckon but there was little choice in the end. Kosi's last quarter was good but he does not have the natural feel of a ruckman. Gardiner and King is what we need, but we seem cursed.

|Andy| · Post: # 559881Post **|Andy|** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:22am

bring back king and bring in mcevoy... our centre is nothing without them.

LENNY LEADS THE WAY · Sun 04 May 2008 12:29am

|Andy| wrote:bring back king and bring in mcevoy... our centre is nothing without them.

That's right mcevoy has been tearing it up all season at afl level this year we're nothing without him

hotdish · Post: # 559942Post **hotdish** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:35am

If my memory is right, we've won every game Gardiner has played.

Yes, wins against Sydney, Carlton and now Richmond - 3/3 for Gardiner

esaint66 · Post: # 559950Post **esaint66** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:38am

In thought he played his part very well tonight and was very supirised when he was given a shared 2 votes in the bads on MMM by sammy hamill.

Teflon · Post: # 559951Post **Teflon** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:38am

Gardiner was better than Kosi in there by a long shot.

Her was ok tonight.

Mr Magic · Post: # 559959Post **Mr Magic** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:39am

saint edward wrote:In thought he played his part very well tonight and was very supirised when he was given a shared 2 votes in the bads on MMM by sammy hamill.

I think it was Wayne Schwass who gave the 'bads'?

esaint66 · Post: # 559960Post **esaint66** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:39am

hotdish wrote:If my memory is right, we've won every game Gardiner has played.

Yes, wins against Sydney, Carlton and now Richmond - 3/3 for Gardiner

Well he would definately know the words to the song now, not that there very hard.

Bernard Shakey · Sun 04 May 2008 12:45am

We need Gardy or King to play every week, preferably both of them, or we are going nowhere.

Kosi is not a ruckman's arsehole.

esaint66 · Post: # 559989Post **esaint66** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:49am

Mr Magic wrote:
saint edward wrote:In thought he played his part very well tonight and was very supirised when he was given a shared 2 votes in the bads on MMM by sammy hamill.
I think it was Wayne Schwass who gave the 'bads'?

I'm sorry it probably was i was in the car with a kid who couldnt keep his trap shut

joffaboy · Post: # 560005Post **joffaboy** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:56am

3 possessions is good?

Rix used to get more than that.

perfectionist · Sun 04 May 2008 12:59am

"bads"!! What game was Schwass at? Amongst the Saints and Tiger players there were some strong contenders for "bad", but Gardiner,M wasn't one of them. Who was that Richmond player who kicked the ball to two, not one, Saints players in the centre in the last quarter?

The_Dud · Post: # 560220Post **The_Dud** » Sun 04 May 2008 3:51am

in the ruck Gards looks very good, but all up looked a bit under done tonight, didn't seem to spend much time on the ground

but Kosi got absolutely smashed by Symonds in the ruck, hopefully next round we'll have King back

saintsRrising · Sun 04 May 2008 12:29pm

Well his stats should have had one extra kick and goal.....

Gardi looked ok...but also looked like he had not playeda match fora month.

He will be better for the run...and I hope we have King back with him for the ruck in the Pies game.

matrix · Post: # 560393Post **matrix** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:33pm

how did he actually go?
i had the worst radio reception sitting in the car last night.

read this morning that symmonds had 32 hit outs

bergsone · Post: # 560406Post **bergsone** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:40pm

Gardner has played very little footy last 4? years .Heneeds games under his belt .

Richter · Post: # 560407Post **Richter** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:40pm

In the first half Gardiner competed well in the ruck but we got beaten in the clearances.

Most of the second half Kosi got smashed in the hitouts - we got beaten in the clearances.

Final quarter it looked like Kosi had just decided to concede the hitouts - at one stage Riewoldt jumped over him to try to get a fist on a ball-up - at another X tried the same thing

perhaps Kosi was figuring he could act as another midfielders and we might win win more ball from the middle. We still got beaten in the clearances.

saintsRrising · Sun 04 May 2008 12:42pm

matrixcutter wrote:how did he actually go?
i had the worst radio reception sitting in the car last night.

read this morning that symmonds had 32 hit outs

Tiges won the HOs 43 to 30.

Simmonds was very good and Pattison only had short bursts in the ruck.

Gardi was ok to good in the ruck...but Kosi played a lot as the ruck...I suspect because Gardi had been out for a month.

Bono · Post: # 560418Post **Bono** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:50pm

If you thought Gardiner was great, you must have been watching a match from 2003 when he wore the blue and gold. He's not in our best 22.

While I'm on it, Maguire and Raph Clarke were disgraceful. Neither of them deserve a match. Bring on Jarryd Allen and get Max back into the team.

Moccha · Post: # 560419Post **Moccha** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:50pm

Gardiner was very quiet and didn't do too much

matrix · Post: # 560428Post **matrix** » Sun 04 May 2008 12:57pm

thanks peoples

to be honest he hasnt gone as well as i thought he would......its those damn niggling injuries he always has i spose.
still...its only round 7

Ice Wolf · Post: # 560491Post **Ice Wolf** » Sun 04 May 2008 2:34pm

Moccha wrote:Gardiner was very quiet and didn't do too much

He crumbed a goal but it was then taken off him, aparently its only advantage when its the other team

Also his possesions were good ones.

sunsaint · Post: # 560590Post **sunsaint** » Sun 04 May 2008 5:05pm

Some of Gardiners center taps were excellent, but he burnt all his tickets in under two quarters of footy.
Kosi is still our third to fourth rated ruckman, and didnt do much on the night to affect the game.... Symmonds smashed us.
We probably have 6 more games to sort out our center setup.
But at this stage our ruck list seems to be in order King, Gardiner, Rix, Kosi, Blake. So McEvoy has a few to jump, so lets hope he has the goods to back up the talk.

saintsRrising · Sun 04 May 2008 5:30pm

Perhaps if we look at it this way...Gardi was better than Rix....but not as good as he has been for us this year.

plugger66 · Post: # 560610Post **plugger66** » Sun 04 May 2008 5:32pm

saintsRrising wrote:Perhaps if we look at it this way...Gardi was better than Rix....but not as good as he has been for us this year.

Hardly trained since hurt himself. Was short of a run and only played because we had no real options.