Another perspective

Saintgaz · Post: # 583423Post **Saintgaz** » Mon 09 Jun 2008 8:09pm

I've been thinking about the whole "who's to blame-players or coach" business that's going on.
Many have proposed that Lyon has lost the players, which may be true. But so much of footy nowadays is based around player ownership etc.
I know the Saints have done the Leading Teams stuff over many years which teaches players to own the team and develop themselves and the team.
So if the players don't respond to Lyon shouldn't they respond to each other and themselves?
Shouldn't their pride kick in and demand a better performance than they've been giving?
Maybe it's time for the coaches to step out for a while and let the players look deep within themselves and each other and pull themselves out of the mire they're in?
Maybe it's time for the players to own their performance and the team and do something about it?

iwantmeseats · Mon 09 Jun 2008 9:19pm

Or maybe its time for that, AND to sack lyon. Its certainly not all the coach, but Im telling you, this guy is a complete dud and has proved time and again he couldnt coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

Mr Magic · Post: # 583500Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 09 Jun 2008 9:25pm

iwantmeseats wrote:Or maybe its time for that, AND to sack lyon. Its certainly not all the coach, but Im telling you, this guy is a complete dud and has proved time and again he couldnt coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

iwantmeseats,
I don't mind you telling me that you think we need to sack the coach.

BUT

do you have to tell me in scores of posts in every thread?

I hear you.
Everybody hears you.

No-one is in any doubt as to what your opinion on this issue is.

redwhite&blackblood · Mon 09 Jun 2008 9:32pm

If all people are saying is true about the players and RL then he is heading down the way of most coaches that get sacked. This is what made the Gt sacking an unusual one because the players were in favor of the coach yet he was still sacked. Most coaches lose the players then ultimately the board comes out in support of them before sacking them 4 weeks later.

matrix · Post: # 583526Post **matrix** » Mon 09 Jun 2008 9:41pm

the way some decisions are made at this club it wouldnt surprise me if he gets the boot and they RE hire the other bloke

bigcarl · Post: # 583599Post **bigcarl** » Mon 09 Jun 2008 10:36pm

matrixcutter wrote:the way some decisions are made at this club it wouldnt surprise me if he gets the boot and they RE hire the other bloke

that would amaze me. it would certainly put a few noses out of joint on here.

evertonfc · Post: # 583651Post **evertonfc** » Mon 09 Jun 2008 11:23pm

All is forgiven.

Might get Riewoldt to kick straight...

iwantmeseats · Tue 10 Jun 2008 7:59am

Mr Magic wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:Or maybe its time for that, AND to sack lyon. Its certainly not all the coach, but Im telling you, this guy is a complete dud and has proved time and again he couldnt coach his way out of a wet paper bag.
iwantmeseats,
I don't mind you telling me that you think we need to sack the coach.

BUT

do you have to tell me in scores of posts in every thread?

I hear you.
Everybody hears you.

No-one is in any doubt as to what your opinion on this issue is.

Fair enough, point taken.