Open Training Report - Wednesday 11th June

[SaintBot]

After a nice long ride in the windy conditions I finally arrived at Moorabbin at 3pm on the dot.

There was a big group in the square just warming up with some 25-30m kicks to a partner before splitting up into two groups. The rehab group doing moderate laps and stretching consisted of Brad Howard, James Gwilt, Leigh Fisher, Jason Gram, Robert Eddy, Jarryd Allen and Adam Schneider. Fisher and Eddy both had tights on one of their calfs and Gram had a big jacket on, perhaps a slight cold keeping him from training? Robert Harvey came out for a little while doing about two laps of 50m moderate running, 20m walking. Jayden Attard looked good but was just doing light foot skills with a trainer, which looked nice and sharp mind you.

Towards the carpark end there was a Junior/Casey group consisting of players such as Clinton Jones, Ben McEvoy, Jack Steven, David Armitage, Sean Dempster, Glenn Chivers, Jarryn Geary, Luke Miles and Khan Haretuku. They were doing a fairly simple kicking drill with Greg Hutchinson and Danny Sexton.

The Grandstand end had a more senior group with Aaron Fiora, Lenny Hayes, Andrew McQualter, Leigh Montagna, Stephen Milne, Charlie Gardiner, Nick Dal Santo, Matthew Ferguson, Shane Birss and Nick Riewoldt with Michael Rix joining them after training with the Casey group. It should please many of you that they all spent the session practising set shot goalkicking with John Barker. It started from about 35m out directly in front with a "Quidditch Pole" as their mark. A club camera man had set up a tripod with a video camera right where the mark was, which will be used to look at and hopefully fix any technique issues.

Absentees, remembering I got there possibly 15 minutes after the commencement of training, were Steven King, Xavier Clarke, Max Hudghton, Fraser Gehrig, Steven Baker, Luke Ball, Michael Gardiner, Raphael Clarke, Brendon Goddard, Sam Gilbert, Justin Koschitzke, Sam Fisher, Jason Blake, Matt Maguire, Eljay Connors, Luke Van Rheenen, Steven Silvangi and Ross Lyon.

Players started heading into the race at quarter past 3 and we're all gone by just after 3:30. Lenny Hayes and Stephen Milne were the last to finish, still having shots at goal. Glenn Chivers came back on and did a lap and was stretching as I left. Generally the atmosphere on the field was as quiet as I've ever witnessed. Very low intensity and a large number of no shows. If we are going by the old coaching myth "You only play the way you train," then I'm not very surprised that we are playing the way we currently are.

[MadSaintFan]

If im being honest I have no real idea of the intensity or length of training sessions during the week.

What is it normally like? - on what days do the boys really stretch out and how intense do they get?
What are the usual rest days?

[sunsaint]

Life's pretty good really...what would that make it 15 minutes goal kicking practice all up? Total training of 45min?
I hear Neil Craig is thrashing them at the moment...!

[Batnoe]

No show Ross Lyon

should he coach us?

maybe that is our problem, we cant learn his suposedly excellent game plan becuase he isnt there to teach them

[Otiman]

Chivers look good to go in the VFL this week? He's still listed as 1-3 weeks with the recovery from his foot injury.

Video analysis of the kicking, someone's been reading my posts. Hopefully video was taken from multiple angles (front and side).

Cheers for the in depth report, it's these kind of reports that have made the coaching staff paranoid about doing anything strategic in the open sessions anymore.

[Otiman]

No show Ross Lyon

It's okay, John Barker was there.

[iwantmeseats]

No show Ross Lyon

should he coach us?

maybe that is our problem, we cant learn his suposedly excellent game plan becuase he isnt there to teach them

What a surprise.

[bergsone]

No show Ross Lyon

It's okay, John Barker was there.

My confidence has gone sky high now

[Otiman]

No show Ross Lyon

It's okay, John Barker was there.

My confidence has gone sky high now

If we kick at 80% accuracy and beat the swans with forwards that lead to the right places, don't get in each others way, and crumb properly, i'll eat my words.

[bergsone]

No show Ross Lyon

It's okay, John Barker was there.

My confidence has gone sky high now

If we kick at 80% accuracy and beat the swans with forwards that lead to the right places, don't get in each others way, and crumb properly, i'll eat my words.

so will I Otiman so will I,but cant see it hope i am wrong

[i_luv_nick_riewoldt]

I thought today's session was bizarre. I was expecting at least 1.5hrs of solid training and they pretty much had forwards kicking goals, mids and back line kicking at the other end and then attard kicking off to the side with the rehab group running.

My thoughts are that the saints have had other sessions training during the week and are conserving energy for the swans match. Definitely a different type of training.

[Otiman]

I thought today's session was bizarre. I was expecting at least 1.5hrs of solid training and they pretty much had forwards kicking goals, mids and back line kicking at the other end and then attard kicking off to the side with the rehab group running.

My thoughts are that the saints have had other sessions training during the week and are conserving energy for the swans match. Definitely a different type of training.

Because you don't want the public and media seeing you actually trying.

[SaintBot]

I thought today's session was bizarre. I was expecting at least 1.5hrs of solid training and they pretty much had forwards kicking goals, mids and back line kicking at the other end and then attard kicking off to the side with the rehab group running.

My thoughts are that the saints have had other sessions training during the week and are conserving energy for the swans match. Definitely a different type of training.

Because you don't want the public and media seeing you actually trying.

Doesn't seem to affect Collingwood.

Chivers look good to go in the VFL this week? He's still listed as 1-3 weeks with the recovery from his foot injury.

Video analysis of the kicking, someone's been reading my posts. Hopefully video was taken from multiple angles (front and side).

From what I saw he did the kicking drill with Hutchinson and Sexton. Perhaps was undertaking his fitness test after training as he was the only player who came back out with runners, a fitness guy came out with him.

[saintbrat]

Absentees, remembering I got there possibly 15 minutes after the commencement of training, were Steven King, Xavier Clarke, Max Hudghton, Fraser Gehrig, Steven Baker, Luke Ball, Michael Gardiner, Raphael Clarke, Brendon Goddard, Sam Gilbert, Justin Koschitzke, Sam Fisher, Jason Blake, Matt Maguire, Eljay Connors, Luke Van Rheenen, Steven Silvangi and Ross Lyon.

all in bold were out there early on- 2.30ish as Lenny did the press interview, as seen on some vision.
saintscentral.com,.au- lenny interview from today has quite abit of vision of the guys including Jayden Attard

[jill]

Don't most teams opt for light training after playing on the hard Telstra Dome surface ? - especially after a Sun. game .

[Bernard Shakey]

Training (I use that word because that was what it was advertised as) was the worst I have seen in the past 4 years.

It's obvious that Ross Lyin has been told to have open training sessions by the Board.

Less than 45 minutes of skylarking. No serious training whatsoever.

Goal kicking practice? What a joke.
95% of shots missed. Nobody was serious about it (all laughing and lairising).

This team is going backwards at a furious rate.

Anyone (including players) planning holidays or weddings in September for the next few years, go for it.

[bigred]

John Barker = Fail.

[Saints-06-Premiers]

No show Ross Lyon

It's okay, John Barker was there.

Is that part of the succession plan?

We are all f***ed.

[Otiman]

Less than 45 minutes of skylarking. No serious training whatsoever.

Goal kicking practice? What a joke.
95% of shots missed. Nobody was serious about it (all laughing and lairising).

Saintsational mentality at its finest, people will find any way of blaming the coach when it's clear that the players themselves just aren't switched on.

[SteveStevens66]

Less than 45 minutes of skylarking. No serious training whatsoever.

Goal kicking practice? What a joke.
95% of shots missed. Nobody was serious about it (all laughing and lairising).

Saintsational mentality at its finest, people will find any way of blaming the coach when it's clear that the players themselves just aren't switched on.

If the players aren't "switched on" it means that Lyon hasn't been able to switch them on or more specifically, switch them on to play for him. And is it any wonder? He is an utterly colourless, charisma-less, boring drone. Who could he possibly inspire with his insipid manner?

[Tassie Saint]

with the largeish group of players mentioned who weren't out there, wouldn't you think that they were prob somewhere else with the coaches who weren't there also - maybe having a planning meeting or using the gym (do we have one??). I'm not happy with how the session sounds either mind you ( specially if it was the only training and it was as frivolous as it sounds, however just because you don't see something doesn't mean it's not happening.

[saintbrat]

tassie of that group mentioned

there were maybe only 6 that didn't atleast appear and then go off and do something else about half way.
and that included baker- in or just out of surgery, maguire, van Rheenan, Connors and even gerhig still recovering from surgery- Kosi after his knock last week was obviously on light program,

[Ice Wolf]

Maybe most of the others were with Ross taking harden the f*** up lessons

[Bernard Shakey]

Ross was probably out taking "how to present in a more manly fashion" lessons.

[i_luv_nick_riewoldt]

Training (I use that word because that was what it was advertised as) was the worst I have seen in the past 4 years.

It's obvious that Ross Lyin has been told to have open training sessions by the Board.

Less than 45 minutes of skylarking. No serious training whatsoever.

Goal kicking practice? What a joke.
95% of shots missed. Nobody was serious about it (all laughing and lairising).

This team is going backwards at a furious rate.

Anyone (including players) planning holidays or weddings in September for the next few years, go for it.

Yep totally agree with you, some of the boys were more excited about trying to kick the ball into the bins rather than participate in training. I was watching rooey kick for goals and i still think he has the yips missed a heap im afraid.