Take your pick. JMac V Raph

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Take your pick. JMac V Raph

Post: # 849651Post Con Gorozidis »

similar age, height and position. who is a better player? JMac for mine.


Joel Macdonald
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Age: 25yr Games: 80 Born: October 10, 1984
Height: 186cm Weight: 88kg Position: Defender

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Raphael Clarke
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Age: 24yr Games: 57 Born: September 24, 1985
Height: 188cm Weight: 78kg Position: Defender


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Post: # 849652Post sax »

I'd have Joel MacDonald!


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Post: # 849659Post plugger66 »

I will pick who RL and the other coaching staff pick.


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Post: # 849662Post Con Gorozidis »

plugger66 wrote:I will pick who RL and the other coaching staff pick.
well u must be a good date. ill have whatever is served up to me. no no thats ok. roasted turd on a plate. yummy! whats for dessert?


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Post: # 849665Post SainterK »

I think there is heaps of interest for Joel, would we even have a chance to pick him up?


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Post: # 849666Post sax »

plugger66 wrote:I will pick who RL and the other coaching staff pick.
It's an OPINION!


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Post: # 849669Post plugger66 »

sax wrote:
plugger66 wrote:I will pick who RL and the other coaching staff pick.
It's an OPINION!
And thats my opinion. sorry OPINION.


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Post: # 849702Post kosifantutti23 »

In my opinion, I agree with plugger66.


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Post: # 849703Post Batnoe »

kosifantutti23 wrote:In my opinion, I agree with plugger66.
agree


at this point we have Raph on the list

it is like saying

Raph or Scarlett- we have Raph


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Post: # 849704Post TassieJones »

nothing against raph, but macdonald every day of the week


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Post: # 849710Post plugger66 »

TassieJones wrote:nothing against raph, but macdonald every day of the week
Well i think that is something against Raph as you have picked a player who doesnt even have a club to play at.


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take you pick

Post: # 849713Post JABBER »

Raph is in our best 22 if he wasnt playing against bulldogs we would have lost .The first tackle in the Grand Final was Sam Fisher fault because he didnt block Rooke.To you all Raph bashers get a life or surport another team


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Re: take you pick

Post: # 849719Post AnythingsPossibleSaints »

Is that an order?


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Post: # 849726Post Thinline »

plugger66 wrote:
sax wrote:
plugger66 wrote:I will pick who RL and the other coaching staff pick.
It's an OPINION!
And thats my opinion. sorry OPINION.
Which are like ARSEHOLES.


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Post: # 849727Post MCG-Unit »

Raph Clarke is already on the Saints list - MacDonald will be taken before the Saints pick

Trading is over, so they can't swap :shock:


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Post: # 849771Post To the top »

Spot on Jabber.

Plus he had no support behind him (including voice) and no switching support accross the ground.

We did that twice and burnt Dawson in a similar break down of team rules front and centre on the 50M defensive line.

Geelong tried to populate the corridor and we fell into the trap of going there to players with no supports - twice.

I can only imagine what Silvagni may have had to say.

Baker played a wonderful, disciplined game towelling a highly credentialled player but I just wonder now if we are looking for a highly skilled small defender with pace and precise delivery - hence Peake.

Someone who can defend the skilled small forward and then create from deep in defence - including by making space as cover.

They have gone after Peake for a reason - and it is not our mid-field rotations because Lovett, Steven and Armitage will all come into the equation there along with Clarke.

Ball is well and truly covered if he continues on his current tack - then he has to earn an AFL game at St Kilda and therein lies his current predicament because he is obviously looking at the competion on our list and querying how he is to get a regular game.


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Post: # 849772Post borderbarry »

I will wstick with the Saint. I will take Raph. He was good in the finals until he got injured in the Grand Final.


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Post: # 849773Post boneless23 »

Raph has more upside than McDonald.

We have seen how good he can play (08 finals series, 09 PF).

We just need him to be a bit more consistent and close the gap between his good and bad games.


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borderbarry wrote:I will wstick with the Saint. I will take Raph. He was good in the finals until he got injured in the Grand Final.
If he got injured I missed it.


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plugger66 wrote:
borderbarry wrote:I will wstick with the Saint. I will take Raph. He was good in the finals until he got injured in the Grand Final.
If he got injured I missed it.

Knock to the knee near the start of the game same as in the game before.


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Post: # 849780Post borderbarry »

If you remember when he came off he was taken straight to the rooms.


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Post: # 849785Post bobmurray »

plugger66 wrote:
borderbarry wrote:I will wstick with the Saint. I will take Raph. He was good in the finals until he got injured in the Grand Final.
If he got injured I missed it.
bruised EGO after "that" tackle early in the game...


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Post: # 849789Post plugger66 »

bobmurray wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
borderbarry wrote:I will wstick with the Saint. I will take Raph. He was good in the finals until he got injured in the Grand Final.
If he got injured I missed it.
bruised EGO after "that" tackle early in the game...
Exactly. He was fine. No excuses.


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Post: # 849840Post bigcarl »

boneless23 wrote:Raph has more upside than McDonald.

We have seen how good he can play (08 finals series, 09 PF).

We just need him to be a bit more consistent and close the gap between his good and bad games.
correct. He's a bit of a playmaker when he's up and running in a creative role. don't like him as a close-checking defender.

he's an onballer, winger or half-forward for mine.


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Post: # 849841Post st_Trav_ofWA »

question .. Barry Brooks or Chris Judd ???? about as much releavance as this topic joel will not be an option for St Kilda and Raph is a Saints best 22 player


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