Drop Roo

Shades · Post: # 965464Post **Shades** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 3:35am

All the games his been in since he got back we have been shocking.

Dont no what has changed but we need 2 do sumthin

Ajer · Post: # 965484Post **Ajer** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 9:11am

I agree, he has been struggling a little since the comeback. His kicking at goal has been deplorable.

But then again, we need to get him fit, so no point dropping him. Its a tough decision. May take him some time to get back to his best.

spert · Post: # 965490Post **spert** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 9:38am

Play him on a wing or across half back for some of the game. Our forward line is shocking.

plugger66 · Post: # 965494Post **plugger66** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 9:46am

spert wrote:Play him on a wing or across half back for some of the game. Our forward line is shocking.

So lets get rid of our best forward. That isnt the answer.

Seaford_Saint · Sat 31 Jul 2010 9:46am

This is the single most stupid post I have EVER read on here.... and that's saying something!!!

Drop Roo...FFS -

SaintDebi · Post: # 965514Post **SaintDebi** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 10:24am

Drop Roo? No, but please remind the rest of the boys that there is no rule in AFL that says you may only have 1 designated goal kicker. Our midfielders still have the same skills that they had while Roo was out, to run in and kick goals- use them.
Time to play as if they have confidence in each and every one of their team mates, and that means when you see a good option, use it while its good. Don't second guess and look for Roo or another option then sell a tem mate into trouble when the first, better option is gone.

I know, I've never played a game of football in my life, so I'm no expert, but that's what I'm seeing.

Statsman · Post: # 965517Post **Statsman** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 10:28am

Is it perhaps that the players have relaxed now that Riewoldt is back?

With Riewoldt out the players knew they had to collectively step up and fill the breech. There was an "us against the world" mentality as we tried to hold the fort until our captain returned. Now that he's back it looks to me like they've all breathed a sigh of relief and relaxed.

AFL football doesn't work like that and you've still got to bring your A game every week. Roo's return isn't going to make up for a dozen or more passengers!

The Saintsational Man · Sat 31 Jul 2010 10:55am

You should never be allowed to post again.

chook23 · Post: # 965526Post **chook23** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 10:56am

Statsman wrote:Is it perhaps that the players have relaxed now that Riewoldt is back?

With Riewoldt out the players knew they had to collectively step up and fill the breech. There was an "us against the world" mentality as we tried to hold the fort until our captain returned. Now that he's back it looks to me like they've all breathed a sigh of relief and relaxed.

AFL football doesn't work like that and you've still got to bring your A game every week. Roo's return isn't going to make up for a dozen or more passengers!

agree with this post.

noob · Post: # 965536Post **noob** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 11:21am

drop hayes so the rest of the team learn how to get the pill

backit · Post: # 965557Post **backit** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 11:49am

The post whilst titled as dropping Roo actually makes sense as when he was out the players actually had to win games without him and compensated for him not being there. Now he is back in the team the expectation is we will win with him in the side but without actually doing the things that got us wins without him.

I don't agree with dropping him but the players have to remember that they cannot rely on him solely to kick winning scores, do all the hard work bringing others into the game, being the sole focal point for 70 - 80% of our forward attacks and being there will make others lift. It is a team game something that we are suddenly lacking understanding of that has structures, set plays and helping out your team.

I have concerns on our current form and attitudes we will finish just making the finals and be out immediately because nothing suggests to me we are a good team.

Duggie · Post: # 965573Post **Duggie** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 12:28pm

This is a crackpot suggestion!
Just cast your myopic mind back to the time when he was injured. We had to readjust almost the entire team. It affected the backline to allow some players to move into attack to say nothing of the great gap in the forward line. It slowed our winning progress but we got through it. One of the heroes in it is the one most mailgned now--Milney.
So we have Roo back and are going though another readjustment. The question is can we achieve (either by fine tuning or drastic measure) the former winning ability? Only time will tell but I rule out that any such drastic measure should be as you suggest

saintnick12 · Sat 31 Jul 2010 12:41pm

SaintDebi wrote:Drop Roo? No, but please remind the rest of the boys that there is no rule in AFL that says you may only have 1 designated goal kicker. Our midfielders still have the same skills that they had while Roo was out, to run in and kick goals- use them.
Time to play as if they have confidence in each and every one of their team mates, and that means when you see a good option, use it while its good. Don't second guess and look for Roo or another option then sell a tem mate into trouble when the first, better option is gone.

I know, I've never played a game of football in my life, so I'm no expert, but that's what I'm seeing.

Agree with this. They seem to have become too ROO focussed, and kicking to him, but with two and three men on him. What was with Gram banging it up in the air multiple times last night. They managed to "manufacture" other ways to goal without Roo in and haven't been able to do that since he's been back in. Agree with Statsman's suggestion that there seems to be a little element of that maybe those that had to step up have now relaxed, expecting all to be fine now the captain is back.
But the suggestion in this thread to drop him is I hope, tongue in cheek. While the stats show we have struggled since he's been back, the ONLY way we can do any damage in September is with him in. But he needs to be the icing, not the whole cake.

thejiggingsaint · Sat 31 Jul 2010 12:46pm

They did play their best game of the year with Roo in the side!
North Melbourne would love us to drop Roo for the next game against 'em!

bigcarl · Post: # 965598Post **bigcarl** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 1:00pm

Statsman wrote:Is it perhaps that the players have relaxed now that Riewoldt is back?

With Riewoldt out the players knew they had to collectively step up and fill the breech. There was an "us against the world" mentality as we tried to hold the fort until our captain returned. Now that he's back it looks to me like they've all breathed a sigh of relief and relaxed.

AFL football doesn't work like that and you've still got to bring your A game every week. Roo's return isn't going to make up for a dozen or more passengers!

i think you have nailed it. how do we fix it?

saintnick12 · Sat 31 Jul 2010 1:23pm

bigcarl wrote:
Statsman wrote:Is it perhaps that the players have relaxed now that Riewoldt is back?

With Riewoldt out the players knew they had to collectively step up and fill the breech. There was an "us against the world" mentality as we tried to hold the fort until our captain returned. Now that he's back it looks to me like they've all breathed a sigh of relief and relaxed.

AFL football doesn't work like that and you've still got to bring your A game every week. Roo's return isn't going to make up for a dozen or more passengers!
i think you have nailed it. how do we fix it?

Ross just said exactly that on 3AW...good call Statsman

Moccha · Post: # 965612Post **Moccha** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 1:28pm

Drop Milne more likely. Was no where to be seen last night. Is a one trick pony.

borderbarry · Sat 31 Jul 2010 1:38pm

Maybe Roo to CHB. Then again our midfield would probably start kicking the ball backward to him.

clarky449 · Post: # 965640Post **clarky449** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 2:19pm

Moccha wrote:Drop Milne more likely. Was no where to be seen last night. Is a one trick pony.

Why on earth would you drop Milne.

Moccha · Post: # 965642Post **Moccha** » Sat 31 Jul 2010 2:22pm

clarky449 wrote:
Moccha wrote:Drop Milne more likely. Was no where to be seen last night. Is a one trick pony.
Why on earth would you drop Milne.

MIA