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Contracts talks are open with BJ...

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Guess that's something...

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Negotiations are continuing to secure a three-year deal at $550,00-$630,000 a season. Goddard, 27, would secure top dollar depending on incentives in his contract.

He would probably earn more if he left the Saints, but that scenario is increasingly unlikely.

Saints chief executive Michael Nettlefold and Goddard's manager Dan Richardson, of ESP, would not comment yesterday on the financial terms.

Nettlefold said: "We are committed to Brendon, and we believe Brendon is committed to us, and we're hoping the talks get more serious soon."

Asked if the talks were moving in the right direction, Richardson said: "We're in discussions and we're moving forward.

"The discussions are unfolding towards a result.

"I've got no reason to think they aren't moving in the right direction."

Richardson confirmed clubs had approached him about Goddard's future, but refused to name them.

It's known Greater Western Sydney has spoken to Richardson, who told the Giants that Goddard was basically committed to St Kilda.

It was recently revealed that Fremantle had a sizeable war chest and would be interested in Goddard if its pursuit of Collingwood's Travis Cloke hit the wall.

The clear understanding is that Goddard is not interested in rejoining former Saints coach Ross Lyon at Fremantle.

"We have a relationship with all clubs. We talk to a number of clubs about our players. That's what we do," Richardson said.

Goddard's market value has dropped significantly in recent seasons.


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Post: # 1243520Post BigMart »

Nettlfold made similar comments about Ross. Was the Blindsided because he couldn't get er done.


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Post: # 1243538Post Dr Spaceman »

BigMart wrote:Nettlfold made similar comments about Ross. Was the Blindsided because he couldn't get er done.
Relevance?

Are we supposed to just throw everything at BJ in order to lock him away, given his form over the last season and a half?

No doubt he wants big bucks and there's big bucks on offer out there. But we have to do the right thing by St Kilda.

That takes time and there's risks involved.

But as BC's guts would say, "Such Is Life".


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Post: # 1243548Post philtee »

If he had performed with brilliance in half a dozen games this season, winning 2 or 3
off his own boot, and accruing a fistful of Brownlow votes, then pay him top dollar.
600-thou ? Not at the moment.


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Post: # 1243553Post Cairnsman »

550k-630k...tell him he's dreaming.

Isn’t the timing of the article interesting in the week is set to play his 200th. I wonder who instigated it, was it the Club, was it BJs camp or was it the HS?

I'm a big supporter of incentive/performance based contracts. If BJ was to get back to his best then there should be no reason why the club and BJ can't come up with a contract that sees him earning top dollar.


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Post: # 1243560Post magnifisaint »

BigMart wrote:Nettlfold made similar comments about Ross. Was the Blindsided because he couldn't get er done.
What do you suggest Mr Smartarse?


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Post: # 1243562Post Teflon »

Really 600k on current output?

I haven't seen it since GF's

I'd love Goddard to really start influencing games.... but right now he is slow, gets caught a bit and can't win his own ball...he desperately needs some 'inside' skills for mine or he'll always be a good player ... when the teams going well and can feed him.


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BigMart wrote:Nettlfold made similar comments about Ross. Was the Blindsided because he couldn't get er done.

I dont even understand what this is supposed to mean :?

Can someone intrepret this gibberish?


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SainterK wrote:Guess that's something...

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Negotiations are continuing to secure a three-year deal at $550,00-$630,000 a season. Goddard, 27, would secure top dollar depending on incentives in his contract.

He would probably earn more if he left the Saints, but that scenario is increasingly unlikely.

Saints chief executive Michael Nettlefold and Goddard's manager Dan Richardson, of ESP, would not comment yesterday on the financial terms.

Nettlefold said: "We are committed to Brendon, and we believe Brendon is committed to us, and we're hoping the talks get more serious soon."

Asked if the talks were moving in the right direction, Richardson said: "We're in discussions and we're moving forward.

"The discussions are unfolding towards a result.

"I've got no reason to think they aren't moving in the right direction."

Richardson confirmed clubs had approached him about Goddard's future, but refused to name them.

It's known Greater Western Sydney has spoken to Richardson, who told the Giants that Goddard was basically committed to St Kilda.

It was recently revealed that Fremantle had a sizeable war chest and would be interested in Goddard if its pursuit of Collingwood's Travis Cloke hit the wall.

The clear understanding is that Goddard is not interested in rejoining former Saints coach Ross Lyon at Fremantle."We have a relationship with all clubs. We talk to a number of clubs about our players. That's what we do," Richardson said.

Goddard's market value has dropped significantly in recent seasons.
That's the bit that grabbed my attention !!


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Post: # 1243585Post matrix »

for the thousandth time this year
he will stay a saint

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Post: # 1243595Post saint75 »

matrix wrote:for the thousandth time this year
he will stay a saint

ffs
Yep, never in doubt.

Hope we get an announcement before his 200th game.....

If we do, BJ to have a blinder......


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Post: # 1243598Post SainterK »

saint75 wrote:
matrix wrote:for the thousandth time this year
he will stay a saint

ffs
Yep, never in doubt.

Hope we get an announcement before his 200th game.....

If we do, BJ to have a blinder......
I'm with you guys....

Just happy that the club has opened talks now, I expect a host of signings now.

He will stay a Saint.


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I've thought all along that he'll stay but gee the manner in which he played Sunday's game was like a bloke who didn't want to be there.

I'm really 50/50 on whether he'll stay.


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Animal Enclosure wrote:I've thought all along that he'll stay but gee the manner in which he played Sunday's game was like a bloke who didn't want to be there.

I'm really 50/50 on whether he'll stay.
Same here...Really didn't look like he was interested and considering he was out for 2 weeks for something stupid I thought he may have wanted to make things up with the boys for letting them down.


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Cairnsman wrote:I'm a big supporter of incentive/performance based contracts. If BJ was to get back to his best then there should be no reason why the club and BJ can't come up with a contract that sees him earning top dollar.
how would you measure performance, though? brownlow votes? b and f finishes?


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Post: # 1243605Post Teflon »

bergholt wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:I'm a big supporter of incentive/performance based contracts. If BJ was to get back to his best then there should be no reason why the club and BJ can't come up with a contract that sees him earning top dollar.
how would you measure performance, though? brownlow votes? b and f finishes?
Certainly not hard ball gets... cause Goddard may owe us a few bucks...


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Post: # 1243608Post Dr Spaceman »

Teflon wrote:
bergholt wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:I'm a big supporter of incentive/performance based contracts. If BJ was to get back to his best then there should be no reason why the club and BJ can't come up with a contract that sees him earning top dollar.
how would you measure performance, though? brownlow votes? b and f finishes?
Certainly not hard ball gets... cause Goddard may owe us a few bucks...
This was a hard ball to get :wink:

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i think we need a timeline. we give him our best offer. and if he doesnt take it by a certain date we move on. we cant let it linger. while we are frozen other people are already negotiating with other players etc. if bj doesnt sign soon for us we need to making the best possible trade/deal for him. the risk is he leaves and we have lost our chance to run a hard deal .


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Con Gorozidis wrote:i think we need a timeline. we give him our best offer. and if he doesnt take it by a certain date we move on. we cant let it linger. while we are frozen other people are already negotiating with other players etc. if bj doesnt sign soon for us we need to making the best possible trade/deal for him. the risk is he leaves and we have lost our chance to run a hard deal .
Con, if leaves to GWS we have no say in what we get in return…
If he leaves to free agency - we have no say in what we get in return…
If we don't match the offer - we can't trade him. There is no 'hard deal' to be had in this case unless we sign him up just to flog him off again.

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i was told this morning Goddard to Collingwood?

i highly doubt he is staying with us, he just isnt the same as he was.

if he trys any of that "il wait to the end of the year to sign" stuff i say drop him and give his replacement a head start in the last games of the year.


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bergholt wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:I'm a big supporter of incentive/performance based contracts. If BJ was to get back to his best then there should be no reason why the club and BJ can't come up with a contract that sees him earning top dollar.
how would you measure performance, though? brownlow votes? b and f finishes?
Performance based contracts would/could cover all you mentioned + All Australian, finals appearances (incl GFs), number of games played per year, ladder position and more !!


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saintdooley wrote:i was told this morning Goddard to Collingwood?

i highly doubt he is staying with us, he just isnt the same as he was.

if he trys any of that "il wait to the end of the year to sign" stuff i say drop him and give his replacement a head start in the last games of the year.
The same Collingwood who currently can't afford to keep their AA CHF and CHB? Less than zero chance imo


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bergholt wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:I'm a big supporter of incentive/performance based contracts. If BJ was to get back to his best then there should be no reason why the club and BJ can't come up with a contract that sees him earning top dollar.
how would you measure performance, though? brownlow votes? b and f finishes?
One percenters possibly and also finals games and premierships.


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Back on Topic:

Our history suggests that these things normally get done within a week or two of becoming public. For all we know, the deal might already be done and the club & BJ are waiting for an appropriate time to announce it !!


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