An early look at 2014 likely draftees
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An early look at 2014 likely draftees
Taken from the bigfooty site, written by Chris25:
'A Very Early Look At 2014...
Using this year's ladder as a basic order, I thought I'd take a quick look at next year. It's useful, in that a few clubs will likely be eyeing KPPs next year which may help eventually explain some draft picks this year.
1. GWS - Clem Smith (177cm midfielder - Perth)
2. Melbourne - Peter Wright (201cm ruckman - Calder)
3. St Kilda - Patrick McCartin (192cm forward - Geelong)
4. Western Bulldogs - Hugh Goddard (195cm forward - Geelong)
5. Gold Coast - Lachlan Weller (180cm midfielder - Broadbeach)
6. West Coast - Alec Waterman (182cm midfielder - Claremont)
7. Brisbane - Liam Duggan (182cm midfielder - Western Jets)
8. Adelaide - Sam Durdin (196cm defender - West Adelaide)
9. North Melbourne - Jackson Nelson (186cm midfielder - Geelong)
10. Collingwood - Daniel Capiron (187cm midfielder - Dandenong)
11. Richmond - Christian Petracca (185cm forward - Eastern Ranges)
12. Carlton - Jake Lever (190cm defender - Calder)
13. Port Adelaide - Mac Bower (190cm forward - Norwood)
14. Sydney - Ryan Lim (186cm midfielder - Claremont)
15. Geelong - Tom Lamb (190cm forward - Dandenong)
16. Fremantle - Jesse Watchman (196cm forward - West Adelaide)
17. Hawthorn - Bohdi Walker (182cm midfielder - Gippsland)
18. Essendon - Peter Bampton (182cm midfielder - Norwood)'
Typically a year out, it's the midfielders who are impressing and we're waiting to see which KPPs step up to the next level. But, 2014 is different. The top KPPs have already risen to the top, and there is depth too.
Depending on who finishes bottom, I'd expect all three of Wright, McCartin and Goddard to come into calculations - and I'd probably rate them in that order, although I could go either way with the first two. I think McCartin will really show himself to be the top forward on offer next year. And then we have the South Australian bookends in Durdin and Watchman, plus a few more around that 190cm mark who should grow further over the next year - Bower, Lever, Lamb. I have to say, I particularly like Mac Bower from Norwood who can play at either end and has kicked some big bags of goals this season. One of my favourites at the moment.
One player who has already been talked about a bit is the medium forward Christian Petracca. He had some dominating performances in the TAC Cup this year - often kicking multiple goals and winning 20+ touches. I'm not quite as high on him as others appear to be, but at this early stage you can't overlook his form. Just looks a little more Crameri than O'Keefe to me, not that that's necessarily a bad thing.
But, at #1 is Clem Smith. If it were any other team than the KPP stocked Giants, it would probably be different. But Smith is a very exciting prospect, as a half back/midfielder. He doesn't have the size of Jack Martin, but he has just as many tricks.
As for the other midfielders, we have F/S and Academy picks in Waterman and Weller respectively. If their clubs finished so low, they may not go first round. But for the sake of this, I've included them. Duggan is an outside midfielder, and Bampton a strong inside player. Walker is a quick indigenous half back/outside runner who I quite like. And the others (Nelson, Capiron, Lim) are athletic half back/midfielders, although all three should shift permanently into the midfield next season.
Some players will drop right off, and others will step up. But it's just a quick list of those to keep an eye on, and what the teams will have in the back of their minds come draft day.'
'A Very Early Look At 2014...
Using this year's ladder as a basic order, I thought I'd take a quick look at next year. It's useful, in that a few clubs will likely be eyeing KPPs next year which may help eventually explain some draft picks this year.
1. GWS - Clem Smith (177cm midfielder - Perth)
2. Melbourne - Peter Wright (201cm ruckman - Calder)
3. St Kilda - Patrick McCartin (192cm forward - Geelong)
4. Western Bulldogs - Hugh Goddard (195cm forward - Geelong)
5. Gold Coast - Lachlan Weller (180cm midfielder - Broadbeach)
6. West Coast - Alec Waterman (182cm midfielder - Claremont)
7. Brisbane - Liam Duggan (182cm midfielder - Western Jets)
8. Adelaide - Sam Durdin (196cm defender - West Adelaide)
9. North Melbourne - Jackson Nelson (186cm midfielder - Geelong)
10. Collingwood - Daniel Capiron (187cm midfielder - Dandenong)
11. Richmond - Christian Petracca (185cm forward - Eastern Ranges)
12. Carlton - Jake Lever (190cm defender - Calder)
13. Port Adelaide - Mac Bower (190cm forward - Norwood)
14. Sydney - Ryan Lim (186cm midfielder - Claremont)
15. Geelong - Tom Lamb (190cm forward - Dandenong)
16. Fremantle - Jesse Watchman (196cm forward - West Adelaide)
17. Hawthorn - Bohdi Walker (182cm midfielder - Gippsland)
18. Essendon - Peter Bampton (182cm midfielder - Norwood)'
Typically a year out, it's the midfielders who are impressing and we're waiting to see which KPPs step up to the next level. But, 2014 is different. The top KPPs have already risen to the top, and there is depth too.
Depending on who finishes bottom, I'd expect all three of Wright, McCartin and Goddard to come into calculations - and I'd probably rate them in that order, although I could go either way with the first two. I think McCartin will really show himself to be the top forward on offer next year. And then we have the South Australian bookends in Durdin and Watchman, plus a few more around that 190cm mark who should grow further over the next year - Bower, Lever, Lamb. I have to say, I particularly like Mac Bower from Norwood who can play at either end and has kicked some big bags of goals this season. One of my favourites at the moment.
One player who has already been talked about a bit is the medium forward Christian Petracca. He had some dominating performances in the TAC Cup this year - often kicking multiple goals and winning 20+ touches. I'm not quite as high on him as others appear to be, but at this early stage you can't overlook his form. Just looks a little more Crameri than O'Keefe to me, not that that's necessarily a bad thing.
But, at #1 is Clem Smith. If it were any other team than the KPP stocked Giants, it would probably be different. But Smith is a very exciting prospect, as a half back/midfielder. He doesn't have the size of Jack Martin, but he has just as many tricks.
As for the other midfielders, we have F/S and Academy picks in Waterman and Weller respectively. If their clubs finished so low, they may not go first round. But for the sake of this, I've included them. Duggan is an outside midfielder, and Bampton a strong inside player. Walker is a quick indigenous half back/outside runner who I quite like. And the others (Nelson, Capiron, Lim) are athletic half back/midfielders, although all three should shift permanently into the midfield next season.
Some players will drop right off, and others will step up. But it's just a quick list of those to keep an eye on, and what the teams will have in the back of their minds come draft day.'
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Re: An early look at 2014 likely draftees
Cheers Gershwin…
Always interesting to get a sneak peak of the future…
I wonder if BJ would be happy to see his cousin end up with us… Does anyone know if Hugh's temperament is like Brendon's?
Always interesting to get a sneak peak of the future…
I wonder if BJ would be happy to see his cousin end up with us… Does anyone know if Hugh's temperament is like Brendon's?
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Wow very impressive stuff! I don't mean to be facetious but I wonder if this Bigfooty wizard could give us Saturdays lotto numbers while he's at it?
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Petracca at 11, not a chance. Both he and McCartin were unbelievable as 17 year olds this year. McCartin's performance at Skilled in the nationals was awesome. What Petracca did to the Falcons in the prelim was freakish. They are the best performed in 2013. Both still have massive upside.Gershwin wrote:Taken from the bigfooty site, written by Chris25:
'A Very Early Look At 2014...
Using this year's ladder as a basic order, I thought I'd take a quick look at next year. It's useful, in that a few clubs will likely be eyeing KPPs next year which may help eventually explain some draft picks this year.
1. GWS - Clem Smith (177cm midfielder - Perth)
2. Melbourne - Peter Wright (201cm ruckman - Calder)
3. St Kilda - Patrick McCartin (192cm forward - Geelong)
4. Western Bulldogs - Hugh Goddard (195cm forward - Geelong)
5. Gold Coast - Lachlan Weller (180cm midfielder - Broadbeach)
6. West Coast - Alec Waterman (182cm midfielder - Claremont)
7. Brisbane - Liam Duggan (182cm midfielder - Western Jets)
8. Adelaide - Sam Durdin (196cm defender - West Adelaide)
9. North Melbourne - Jackson Nelson (186cm midfielder - Geelong)
10. Collingwood - Daniel Capiron (187cm midfielder - Dandenong)
11. Richmond - Christian Petracca (185cm forward - Eastern Ranges)
12. Carlton - Jake Lever (190cm defender - Calder)
13. Port Adelaide - Mac Bower (190cm forward - Norwood)
14. Sydney - Ryan Lim (186cm midfielder - Claremont)
15. Geelong - Tom Lamb (190cm forward - Dandenong)
16. Fremantle - Jesse Watchman (196cm forward - West Adelaide)
17. Hawthorn - Bohdi Walker (182cm midfielder - Gippsland)
18. Essendon - Peter Bampton (182cm midfielder - Norwood)'
Typically a year out, it's the midfielders who are impressing and we're waiting to see which KPPs step up to the next level. But, 2014 is different. The top KPPs have already risen to the top, and there is depth too.
Depending on who finishes bottom, I'd expect all three of Wright, McCartin and Goddard to come into calculations - and I'd probably rate them in that order, although I could go either way with the first two. I think McCartin will really show himself to be the top forward on offer next year. And then we have the South Australian bookends in Durdin and Watchman, plus a few more around that 190cm mark who should grow further over the next year - Bower, Lever, Lamb. I have to say, I particularly like Mac Bower from Norwood who can play at either end and has kicked some big bags of goals this season. One of my favourites at the moment.
One player who has already been talked about a bit is the medium forward Christian Petracca. He had some dominating performances in the TAC Cup this year - often kicking multiple goals and winning 20+ touches. I'm not quite as high on him as others appear to be, but at this early stage you can't overlook his form. Just looks a little more Crameri than O'Keefe to me, not that that's necessarily a bad thing.
But, at #1 is Clem Smith. If it were any other team than the KPP stocked Giants, it would probably be different. But Smith is a very exciting prospect, as a half back/midfielder. He doesn't have the size of Jack Martin, but he has just as many tricks.
As for the other midfielders, we have F/S and Academy picks in Waterman and Weller respectively. If their clubs finished so low, they may not go first round. But for the sake of this, I've included them. Duggan is an outside midfielder, and Bampton a strong inside player. Walker is a quick indigenous half back/outside runner who I quite like. And the others (Nelson, Capiron, Lim) are athletic half back/midfielders, although all three should shift permanently into the midfield next season.
Some players will drop right off, and others will step up. But it's just a quick list of those to keep an eye on, and what the teams will have in the back of their minds come draft day.'
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I will go out on a limb and say 177cm player will not be pick one.
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He should be taller by this time next year.plugger66 wrote:I will go out on a limb and say 177cm player will not be pick one.
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kp83 wrote:He should be taller by this time next year.plugger66 wrote:I will go out on a limb and say 177cm player will not be pick one.
He is already 23 years old.
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Peter Wright more of a forward than ruck. He's a monster and my early pick for pick 1. Clem Smith very classy and will most likely measure taller by combine time next year.
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Dont forget Essendon are banned from the first round next year.
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No he's not.plugger66 wrote:kp83 wrote:He should be taller by this time next year.plugger66 wrote:I will go out on a limb and say 177cm player will not be pick one.
He is already 23 years old.
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kp83 wrote:No he's not.plugger66 wrote:kp83 wrote:
He should be taller by this time next year.
He is already 23 years old.
You serious?
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Clem Smith - DOB - 3rd February 1996plugger66 wrote:kp83 wrote:No he's not.plugger66 wrote:
He is already 23 years old.
You serious?
He will turn 18 in February 2014
Sure you got the right player Plug??
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Devilhead wrote:Clem Smith - DOB - 3rd February 1996plugger66 wrote:kp83 wrote:
No he's not.
You serious?
He will turn 18 in February 2014
Sure you got the right player Plug??
I was joking after the guy said he will grow. I reckon if he was 23 he may be a chance in this years draft.
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If he was 23 he would be probably ripping it up in the AFLplugger66 wrote: I was joking after the guy said he will grow. I reckon if he was 23 he may be a chance in this years draft.
Pretty exciting talent by all accounts
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-08/s ... ard-for-wa
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I don't get the joke pal.plugger66 wrote:Devilhead wrote:Clem Smith - DOB - 3rd February 1996plugger66 wrote:
You serious?
He will turn 18 in February 2014
Sure you got the right player Plug??
I was joking after the guy said he will grow. I reckon if he was 23 he may be a chance in this years draft.
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kp83 wrote:I don't get the joke pal.plugger66 wrote:Devilhead wrote:
Clem Smith - DOB - 3rd February 1996
He will turn 18 in February 2014
Sure you got the right player Plug??
I was joking after the guy said he will grow. I reckon if he was 23 he may be a chance in this years draft.
Read it again. Didnt say it was funny but it was clearly a joke.
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It wasn't "clearly" a joke...it's hard to determine sarcasm through the written word.plugger66 wrote:kp83 wrote:I don't get the joke pal.plugger66 wrote:
I was joking after the guy said he will grow. I reckon if he was 23 he may be a chance in this years draft.
Read it again. Didnt say it was funny but it was clearly a joke.
But you are spot on with the fact it wasn't funny.
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Bump. Interesting look from 12 months ago at the potential draftees. And this article http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-22/a ... s-draftees
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Nice bump Munga.
Petracca, McCartin, Wright all in the mix.
Brayshaw wasn't mentioned and Lever has obviously improved. Goddard has slipped a little.
Would like to see us take Petracca.
Petracca, McCartin, Wright all in the mix.
Brayshaw wasn't mentioned and Lever has obviously improved. Goddard has slipped a little.
Would like to see us take Petracca.
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Interesting that Clem Smith looks like he is such a slider. Gone from being in the mix for #1 , to now possibly being 2nd rounder. Are there more really good sub 180 mids this year than normal ? With clubs leaning toward more big bodied mids I think there will be a few of these good sub 180 mids around late in the draft and could provide real value - particularly if they are capable of playing on a wing providing outside run and spread with clean footskills.
Kudos to poster Jimmy O'Dea who strongly backed in Petracca and McCartin !.
Kudos to poster Jimmy O'Dea who strongly backed in Petracca and McCartin !.
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Great bump, very interesting…
It shows how much things change in a year from 17 to 18 years of age, and also suggests how much things can change again from 18 to 23… shows just how hard it is to pick the best few players at this age.
It shows how much things change in a year from 17 to 18 years of age, and also suggests how much things can change again from 18 to 23… shows just how hard it is to pick the best few players at this age.