Team next week?

[spert]

Gilbert sort of cancels out his effect on a game- gets the ball well, then turns it over far too much, or just sprays kicks or handballs to none in particular. Might as well not get the ball in the first place!

Rubbish, his efficiency this year is around 70-75%, also named in best players by those that matter, vent all you like though!!!!!

Jeez I must be looking at a different Gilbert at the games I go to...

[samoht]

According to footywire ... Gilbert's efficiency was about the same as Pendlebury's last year... 78% to 79%.

Pendlebury is an excellent user of the ball, as we all know - he wins more possessions per game, of course - but he's a midfielder.

[saintly]

Kicked Out on Full under no pressure when the receiver was 40 in the clear.
1st Qtr, 15:41 remaining.
Useless.

. I am sure all players nake mistakes

[Proph3t of egan]

Gilbert is an important part of our team in my opinion. One of the only defenders willing to tuck it under his arm and take on the opposition in order to gain that extra ten metres. In the next couple years I see D-mac taking his role over, but right now Gilbo is our guy

Jack newnes looked horrible in that game, is he carrying an injury?

Would hope that some of the less fortunate guys (Sinclair, D-Mac, longer and Stevens once he gets over his illness) get a chance to play pretty soon though, as this is one of the last years we can mess around these guys before a full premiership tilt in the coming years.

[stonecold]

According to footywire ... Gilbert's efficiency was about the same as Pendlebury's last year... 78% to 79%.

Pendlebury is an excellent user of the ball, as we all know - he wins more possessions per game, of course - but he's a midfielder.

Oh, common sense(and actual stats to back it up), excellent, won't cut it on this forum though!!!!!

I was a fraction low with my efficiency percentages on Devo, sorry Sam, but keep up the good work!!!!!

[magnifisaint]

Gilbert sort of cancels out his effect on a game- gets the ball well, then turns it over far too much, or just sprays kicks or handballs to none in particular. Might as well not get the ball in the first place!

Like button needed.

+100.
If fans celebrate and honour the battlers, we'll have nobody with skill, just a team of guys who run hard but can't do a thing with the ball when they get it.

If you don't have battlers then you have nothing to measure the good players with.

[Saints43]

...tuck it under his arm and take on the opposition in order to gain that extra ten metres...

I wish there were a few more who could understand the difference between kicking the ball at top speed having just exited a contest and chipping the ball sideways.

Jack Steven also gets criticised on here for the same thing.

It's easy to be simple. But like an accurate sideways kick, not especially useful.

[bigcarl]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

[spert]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Nobody "hates" Gilbert, we just don't reckon he is much good- would be great at Sandy.

[Linton Lodger]

On the assumption that Riewoldt and Steven won't play and that Armitage will be fit:

Out: Steven (inj)

In: Armitage

If Armo doesn't get up:

In: Sinclair

[To the top]

Well he has played 181 games of AFL footy, will bring up his 200 this season - and, but for a couple of seasons of injury recently, would now be well past 200.

And he is an automatic selection, now with the luxury of playing in his correct position.

Funny how Gilbert receives such commentary on here - but not the GOP Geary.

I know who I would prefer.

[saynta]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Nobody "hates" Gilbert, we just don't reckon he is much good- would be great at Sandy.

Who's "we" spert.

I love the guy.

[Bluthy]

I think after the great effort last week, most players still fit deserve a chance to see if they can keep the team form going and clock up our first win. Stevens coming back through the VFL apparently.

For Steven, I'd go Sinclair or Minch - I'd love to see Sincs in to see if he can be effective with his good skills in the middle after another preseason but Minch is a more like for like as a more dedicated onballer. Acres to play on ball with Steven out and Billings also onball a lot - he could dominate this sort of game Jack.

If no Gresh then defo Sincs for that small pressuring forward/mid spot for me but Wright might get the nod for his pressuring and spooking the young Brissy backs. Long could get a shot as he showed a bit in the preseason comp and looks a likely type. Mav needs a really good game to be holding out the likes of Long.

If Joey doesn't pull up put in I'd love to see White or Rice in and start cultivating a good kicking backline but they will probably go with Dmac who seems next on the hot list. Webster keeps his spot but I want to see him play at a high level this week, landing most of his kicks.

[longtimesaint]

I haven't seen anything to indicate that Joey is in doubt and if Roo and Armo are fit to play it creates a selection headache.
Jack S is out but who else goes out?
Maybe Webster or Savage.

[WellardSaint]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Nobody "hates" Gilbert, we just don't reckon he is much good- would be great at Sandy.

I also think he's no good and is better at Sandy.

[longtimesaint]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Nobody "hates" Gilbert, we just don't reckon he is much good- would be great at Sandy.

I also think he's no good and is better at Sandy.

I also think you're no good and would be better anywhere but here!

[borderbarry]

Gutless lot of changes so far.
We need to improve our goal kicking. It lost us the last game. (and the umpires)

[Con Gorozidis]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Season after season?

Fact check:
Gilbo hasnt been in the top 10 at the B & F since 2010.
Not sure if you have been in a coma. And apologies if you have. But that was 7 years ago.

I dont mind you supporting Gilbo - but at least be vaguely accurate.

[bigcarl]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Season after season?

Fact check:
Gilbo hasnt been in the top 10 at the B & F since 2010.
Not sure if you have been in a coma. And apologies if you have. But that was 7 years ago.

I dont mind you supporting Gilbo - but at least be vaguely accurate.

In my view he is in our top five players. Very good player, and the people that count obviously agree with that assessment.

I don't mind if you see it differently. Just be aware that others don't agree with you.

[WellardSaint]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Season after season?

Fact check:
Gilbo hasnt been in the top 10 at the B & F since 2010.
Not sure if you have been in a coma. And apologies if you have. But that was 7 years ago.

I dont mind you supporting Gilbo - but at least be vaguely accurate.

In my view he is in our top five players. Very good player, and the people that count obviously agree with that.

I don't mind if you see it differently. Just be aware that others don't agree with you.

So...you assert that the coaches rate the Gumby as in our top 5 just like you?
How do you justify that idiotic statement?
They have him in the best 22.
Not top 5.
Get it right.

[bigcarl]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Season after season?

Fact check:
Gilbo hasnt been in the top 10 at the B & F since 2010.
Not sure if you have been in a coma. And apologies if you have. But that was 7 years ago.

I dont mind you supporting Gilbo - but at least be vaguely accurate.

In my view he is in our top five players. Very good player, and the people that count obviously agree with that.

I don't mind if you see it differently. Just be aware that others don't agree with you.

So...you assert that the coaches rate the Gumby as in our top 5 just like you

I didn't say that at all. I said they rate him a very good player. I said in my view he is one of our top five.

[spert]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Nobody "hates" Gilbert, we just don't reckon he is much good- would be great at Sandy.

Who's "we" spert.

I love the guy.

Nice bloke, but "we" is every Saints fan I know of with no exception- was OK back in 2010.

[Vazelos]

Riewoldt is looking like he could play.. the guy is a freak.

[Con Gorozidis]

I just don't get the Gilbo hate.

The guy's one of our top five players season after season and the coach obviously loves him (he keeps playing him).

Find another whipping boy.

Season after season?

Fact check:
Gilbo hasnt been in the top 10 at the B & F since 2010.
Not sure if you have been in a coma. And apologies if you have. But that was 7 years ago.

I dont mind you supporting Gilbo - but at least be vaguely accurate.

In my view he is in our top five players. Very good player, and the people that count obviously agree with that assessment.

I don't mind if you see it differently. Just be aware that others don't agree with you.

The people who count? Name one single person - besides you and firemen- who thinks he is in our top 5 players

[Con Gorozidis]

According to footywire ... Gilbert's efficiency was about the same as Pendlebury's last year... 78% to 79%.

Pendlebury is an excellent user of the ball, as we all know - he wins more possessions per game, of course - but he's a midfielder.

This is when I see red.
I am hapy for people to dfend Gilbo but then they go and do something absurd like compare him to a a gun player. Absurd. Here is the comparison

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p ... fopt2=2016