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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

Post: # 1861438Post Scollop »

Joffa Burns wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 5:28pm
saynta wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 4:47pm Pity. The flag should belong to all indigenous peoples not to some company out for profit.
Yes it should, totally agree with the sentiment.

But if it was sold by Harold Thomas or some legal agreement was reached between Thomas and the WAM organization as the article alludes WAM have every right to receive compensation for the usage.

Probably a very naive thought but perhaps the government could purchase the rights from WAM and free the usage for all indigenous people and sporting organisations to use in a not for profit sense.
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The_Dud wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:58pm Or maybe these WAM blokes could do the right thing and hand it over to the people, they’ve milked it for 50 years, I’m sure that’s long enough.

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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Can someone explain WTF this is all about?

So the Aboriginal flag or whatever its officially called (yellow sun in middle, red bottom, black top) cant be used anywhere anymore as its owned by a clothing brand/company?
Is that the same deal when flying this flag at government buildings, etc?


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red : colour of land *
yellow : sun
black : colour of skin


* unofficially , the colour of our blood spilt


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-18/ ... d/12569346
Last weekend, ABC Grandstand spoke to St Kilda's Noongar and Yamajti star, Paddy Ryder, about the fact the Saints would not be playing in their Indigenous jumper this week.

"All the boys are pretty disappointed," Ryder said.

"We're running out with red, black and yellow socks but it's nowhere near the same thing. We're spewing."
matty parker designed it
the club couldn't get em made in time
(is my understanding)


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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The fact that the Australian Government allowed the flag to be privately owned is an absolute disgrace!!!

I also can’t believe the club has failed to order the Matty Parker designed jumper, especially after stuffing up the Maddy’s Vision jumper order.
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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Looks like they’ll be wearing the Indigenous jumper after all 👍


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What about the throw from Mike Fitzpatrick in this video?
It's like he's playing basketball :lol:


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 20 Aug 2020 8:58pm

What about the throw from Mike Fitzpatrick in this video?
It's like he's playing basketball :lol:
Glenn James bouncing the ball - boy did he cop some grief thru the years


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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asiu wrote: Tue 18 Aug 2020 8:19pm https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-18/ ... d/12569346
Last weekend, ABC Grandstand spoke to St Kilda's Noongar and Yamajti star, Paddy Ryder, about the fact the Saints would not be playing in their Indigenous jumper this week.

"All the boys are pretty disappointed," Ryder said.

"We're running out with red, black and yellow socks but it's nowhere near the same thing. We're spewing."
matty parker designed it
the club couldn't get em made in time
(is my understanding)
Never trust the ABC, they always lie.

Great news the jumpers have arrived and the boys will be wearing them.
But first there is the issue of copyright negotiations with the Parker family.
Item 1. Matty gets to play. Gets a guernsey so to speak.
https://www.saints.com.au/news/798208/s ... s-guernsey
Available from saints locker https://shop.saints.com.au/indigenous-2020/


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Gresham missing from the photos at https://www.saints.com.au/news/798208/s ... s-guernsey
Would suggest he has returned to Melbourne.


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That jersey looks awesome


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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johnearljames wrote: Tue 18 Aug 2020 4:40pm Can someone explain WTF this is all about?

So the Aboriginal flag or whatever its officially called (yellow sun in middle, red bottom, black top) cant be used anywhere anymore as its owned by a clothing brand/company?
Is that the same deal when flying this flag at government buildings, etc?
- Harold Thomas claims he designed the flag that is known as the Aboriginal flag (but there was contention that couldn't be proven because the other person who is said to have designed it is no longer alive)
- In 1995 the Aboriginal Flag was recognised by the Australian Government as an official 'Flag of Australia' under the Flags Act 1953.
- Harold Thomas registered personal ownership of the design.
- The directors of Birubi Art Pty Ltd who were flagged by ACCC for the sale of fake Aboriginal products made in Indonesia were fined over $2million by the Federal government. At least one of directors of Birubi then established a company called WAM clothing and bought a licence from Thomas as the sole owner of the copyright for it's reproduction on clothing, and it has been reported that they have extended that licence since.
- AFL would have to pay royalties to WAM to use the flag on apparel, but it is sketchy whether they can or cannot paint the flag in the centre circle, so have chosen not to.
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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Great news the jumpers have arrived and the boys will be wearing them.
But first there is the issue of copyright negotiations with the Parker family.
Item 1. Matty gets to play. Gets a guernsey so to speak.
https://www.saints.com.au/news/798208/s ... s-guernsey
Available from saints locker https://shop.saints.com.au/indigenous-2020/
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the boys are on song
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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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ace wrote: Thu 20 Aug 2020 10:43pm
asiu wrote: Tue 18 Aug 2020 8:19pm https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-18/ ... d/12569346
Last weekend, ABC Grandstand spoke to St Kilda's Noongar and Yamajti star, Paddy Ryder, about the fact the Saints would not be playing in their Indigenous jumper this week.

"All the boys are pretty disappointed," Ryder said.

"We're running out with red, black and yellow socks but it's nowhere near the same thing. We're spewing."
matty parker designed it
the club couldn't get em made in time
(is my understanding)
Never trust the ABC, they always lie.

Great news the jumpers have arrived and the boys will be wearing them.
But first there is the issue of copyright negotiations with the Parker family.
Item 1. Matty gets to play. Gets a guernsey so to speak.
https://www.saints.com.au/news/798208/s ... s-guernsey
Available from saints locker https://shop.saints.com.au/indigenous-2020/
Ain't that the truth. :wink:


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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ace wrote: Thu 20 Aug 2020 10:43pm
asiu wrote: Tue 18 Aug 2020 8:19pm https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-18/ ... d/12569346
Last weekend, ABC Grandstand spoke to St Kilda's Noongar and Yamajti star, Paddy Ryder, about the fact the Saints would not be playing in their Indigenous jumper this week.

"All the boys are pretty disappointed," Ryder said.

"We're running out with red, black and yellow socks but it's nowhere near the same thing. We're spewing."
matty parker designed it
the club couldn't get em made in time
(is my understanding)
Never trust the ABC, they always lie.

Great news the jumpers have arrived and the boys will be wearing them.
But first there is the issue of copyright negotiations with the Parker family.
Item 1. Matty gets to play. Gets a guernsey so to speak.
https://www.saints.com.au/news/798208/s ... s-guernsey
Available from saints locker https://shop.saints.com.au/indigenous-2020/
I'm guessing Parker in this week and with the signifcance of the jumper should add a bit of spice to the forward line.

Great looking jumper, love the (goanna ) pic on the LHF panel creeping top the centre.

Interesting pic, the boys look very serious & ready for business in both pics, where B Hill normally wheres a massive smile in most pics.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Ain't that the truth. :wink:
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what what you cucumber crunchers know about the truth

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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

Post: # 1862244Post stevie »

The BF thread about the jerseys seems to have some wrong pictures up? The Saints one is last years by the look lol And the Tiger one has the original May date of Dreamtime match on it Also Franklin is modelling the Shitney one ?


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