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No trades with swans

Post: # 2031376Post seano1 »

Please no trades with swans , we lose out and only end up with guys that are banged up


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031384Post SinCitySainter »

Yeah Dempster, Schneider and Membrey were all disasters.
The Swans have been good and fair trade partners over many years and I would rather trade with them than many other clubs.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031385Post Beno88 »

One of the best clubs to trade with in my opinion.

We were very well compensated for Lockett, Hall & O'Brien.

While the Schneider / Dempster deal is still among our most beneficial of all time.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031388Post SydneySainter »

I actually can’t think of many trades with the Swans where we have lost out?

If you’re referring to Plugger and Hall, we were compensated. Both went on to become cult figures at the club, but it’s not as if they walked for nothing.

There was Tommy Gun, but he didn’t become what either we or the Swans had hoped he would become, so no party was better or worse off.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031391Post King Max »

I don’t understand the concept of “Don’t trade with club X”
If it looks like a good trade, do it.
If it doesn’t, renegotiate or walk away.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031393Post saynta »

Beno88 wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 1:02pm One of the best clubs to trade with in my opinion.

We were very well compensated for Lockett, Hall & O'Brien.

While the Schneider / Dempster deal is still among our most beneficial of all time.
Well compensated for Lockett? You must be f****** joking.

We got a used condom, a packet of stale chips and a chewing gum wrapper for the greatest full forward to play the game and probably the saints best player.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031400Post cwrcyn »

An AFL orchestrated reaming of the St Kilda Football Club. Not the first time by the AFL and certainly not the last


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Post: # 2031402Post older saint »

Unfortunately, which was a trend of the time the players picked and those taken in trade were not quality.
Joel Smith could have been anything and again the injury curse struck thanks to Richard Osborne and collingwood.
Hemley, Nugent, Robert Neill and Josh Kitchen.
Neill played in 1997 GF coming in for Matthew Young who was injured but did nothing , I like many though Shane Wakelin would have been a better option.

Not quite Ian Stewart trade disaster but not pretty


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Post: # 2031406Post seano1 »

Hanners was a good deal ….how many games for the $$$$ we did well now jones doing real well ….how many games .


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Post: # 2031407Post Devilhead »

Imagine what we would get for Plugger now


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031409Post Otiman »

Devilhead wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 5:28pm Imagine what we would get for Plugger now
He's gotta be in his 50's and not on our list. Maybe we should rookie list him.


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older saint wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 4:54pm Unfortunately, which was a trend of the time the players picked and those taken in trade were not quality.
Joel Smith could have been anything and again the injury curse struck thanks to Richard Osborne and collingwood.
Hemley, Nugent, Robert Neill and Josh Kitchen.
Neill played in 1997 GF coming in for Matthew Young who was injured but did nothing , I like many though Shane Wakelin would have been a better option.

Not quite Ian Stewart trade disaster but not pretty
Hemley...1 game for 0 kicks, 0 handballs and 0 tackles.....f****** great pick up.....not.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031420Post B.M »

We were completely fkd in the Lockett deal

Hall was ok - pick 13 (Dal)

Dempster and Schneider for 26 is probably our best ever value trade

Membrey - Super


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Post: # 2031423Post happy feet »

I would rather trade with the Swans than Essendope.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031430Post Jacks Back »

King Max wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 2:48pm I don’t understand the concept of “Don’t trade with club X
If it looks like a good trade, do it.
If it doesn’t, renegotiate or walk away.
happy feet wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 9:15pm I would rather trade with the Swans than Essendope.
So we have Club X and Dildorro. Is the theme we're f***ed? :lol:


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031439Post bobmurray »

seano1 wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 5:07pm Hanners was a good deal ….how many games for the $$$$ we did well now jones doing real well ….how many games .
Hence the OP.

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Post: # 2031486Post Devilhead »

So we may have screwed in the Plugger trade but we ended playing in a GF a few years later


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Post: # 2031536Post saynta »

Devilhead wrote: Sat 16 Sep 2023 6:41am So we may have screwed in the Plugger trade but we ended playing in a GF a few years later
And with Plugger in that side we probably win. :cry: :cry:


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Post: # 2031537Post SinCitySainter »

I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 gamers. The deal was fine but we could have done more with it.


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Post: # 2031538Post SinCitySainter »

I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 gamers. The deal was fine but we could have done more with it.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031549Post whiskers3614 »

No good blaming the other side when you make ridiculous decisions on trading.

Not sure who was worse Pelchen or Lethlean?


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031601Post Trev from the Bush »

SinCitySainter wrote: Fri 15 Sep 2023 12:35pm Yeah Dempster, Schneider and Membrey were all disasters.
The Swans have been good and fair trade partners over many years and I would rather trade with them than many other clubs.
And, what did they cost us in return? Peanuts.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031673Post saynta »

SinCitySainter wrote: Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:39pm I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 gamers. The deal was fine but we could have done more with it.
48 was always a saints pick.

2 x 200 gamers....bulshit.

Don't try re writting history FFS. Smith played only 58 games for the saints.

Hardly fair compensation as I saId before.


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Re: No trades with swans

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SinCitySainter wrote: Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:40pm I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 gamers. The deal was fine but we could have done more with it.
How did we screw Joel Smith?
I thought he screwed us, if anything.


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Re: No trades with swans

Post: # 2031719Post B.M »

We didn’t offer him a contract because coming off Two knee Recos

We thought he was done

He played another 150 games was a All Australian and best & fairest


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