2008 goals, behinds, and accuracy.

[Otiman]

Player - Goals - Behinds - Accuracy (%)

Riewoldt 65 - 39 - 62.5
Milne 60- 32 - 65.2
Koschitzke 30 - 21 - 58.8
Schneider 28 - 17 - 62.2
Gram 20 - 13 - 60.6
Dal Santo 12 - 7 - 63.2

[Lenny_Hayes7]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

[meher baba]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

Given that Schneider only kicks 1.5 goals a game (about the same as Kosi), does he do enough other stuff around the ground to justify his existence?

[St Fidelius]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

Given that Schneider only kicks 1.5 goals a game (about the same as Kosi), does he do enough other stuff around the ground to justify his existence?

I think so...

He averages just under 15 possessions a match.

This was his first year with us and one would hope he can improve on that.

He is averaging 1 kick less a quarter than Ryan O'Keefe that some on here rave about and O'Keefe has averaged just 1 goal a match for the last 2 seasons.

[battye]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

Given that Schneider only kicks 1.5 goals a game (about the same as Kosi), does he do enough other stuff around the ground to justify his existence?

I think Schnadzo does enough to warrant his place. I think next year he will kick more goals... if he gets 40-50 goals a year that would be great to complement Milne's 60 or so.

[Otiman]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

Given that Schneider only kicks 1.5 goals a game (about the same as Kosi), does he do enough other stuff around the ground to justify his existence?

IMO the best thing about Schnieder is that he kicks goals against the flow of play. His goals have really kept us in games at times.

[SainterK]

I agree, he improved towards the end of the year....he is only 23, so should have a lot of good footy ahead of him

[st.byron]

I agree, he improved towards the end of the year....he is only 23, so should have a lot of good footy ahead of him

yep agree. Improved considerably in the second half of the season and will be a valuable forward for us.

[bigcarl]

Player - Goals - Behinds - Accuracy (%)

Riewoldt 65 - 39 - 62.5
Milne 60- 32 - 65.2
Koschitzke 30 - 21 - 58.8
Schneider 28 - 17 - 62.2
Gram 20 - 13 - 60.6
Dal Santo 12 - 7 - 63.2

thought kosi was a bit straighter than that. his accuracy must have fallen off as the season went on. i stand corrected on an earlier post when i said he was one of our better kicks for goal.

[Rickabee]

Kosi isn't alone in missing a lot of "gettable" goals.

Do we have any comparisons vs. other AFL teams?

Since we don't get the ball into the forawrd line as much as we like it would really make a difference to our W/L ration if we could improve the overall team accuracy (DUH)!

Who is our goal-kicking coach???

This needs to be improved next year.

[bigcarl]

i'd like to see stats on our percentage of goals per entry inside 50 as compared to other teams.

also our number of entries inside 50 as compared to other teams.

i've had a look for them but they don't appear to be available on the afl site anywhere.

[Sainternist]

What annoys me, in "the modern game", is how many players miss goals directly in front of goal.

It's about time for them to overcome this case of goal kicking yips.

[Red]

Talk about goal kicking yips talk about Lenny Hayes

1999 - 2003 40 goals 22 behinds
2003 - 2008 27 goals 44 behinds

[bigcarl]

i'd like to see stats on our percentage of goals per entry inside 50 as compared to other teams.

also our number of entries inside 50 as compared to other teams.

i've had a look for them but they don't appear to be available on the afl site anywhere.

anyone have access to these type of stats or know where i could get them?

[Snakeman66]

Club Premier
2008 343 235 59.3% Geel 421 250 62.7% Hawth 390 274 58.7%
2007 267 218 55.1% Geelong 430 288 59.9%
2006 312 224 58.2% West Coast 375 289 56.5%
2005 374 241 60.8% Sydney 327 236 58.1%
2004 409 202 66.9% Port A 406 242 62.7%
2003 307 209 59.5% Brisbane 394 274 59.0%

This year was certainly an improvement on last year but 2004 looks like the year that got away.

Last year some noteable performances:

Fizz 12.19
X 10.16
Joey 10.12
Bally 5.9
Lenny 4.8

[Lenny_Hayes7]

Talk about goal kicking yips talk about Lenny Hayes

1999 - 2003 40 goals 22 behinds
2003 - 2008 27 goals 44 behinds

you can't be serious? put tackles laid and 1%s in there while your at it ... Don't sell your story short

[Saints Premiers 2008]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

Given that Schneider only kicks 1.5 goals a game (about the same as Kosi), does he do enough other stuff around the ground to justify his existence?

I think so...

He averages just under 15 possessions a match.

This was his first year with us and one would hope he can improve on that.

He is averaging 1 kick less a quarter than Ryan O'Keefe that some on here rave about and O'Keefe has averaged just 1 goal a match for the last 2 seasons.

god that stat between him and rok is going to become old really soon

15 touches and a goal and a half per game is fine with me...he uses it well...

good boy

[Lenny_Hayes7]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

Given that Schneider only kicks 1.5 goals a game (about the same as Kosi), does he do enough other stuff around the ground to justify his existence?

I think so...

He averages just under 15 possessions a match.

This was his first year with us and one would hope he can improve on that.

He is averaging 1 kick less a quarter than Ryan O'Keefe that some on here rave about and O'Keefe has averaged just 1 goal a match for the last 2 seasons.

god that stat between him and rok is going to become old really soon

15 touches and a goal and a half per game is fine with me...he uses it well...

good boy

Taking the piss?

[Saints Premiers 2008]

Would have taken Milne kicking 60 goals and Schneider kicking 28 at the start of the year.. Good combination up there.

Given that Schneider only kicks 1.5 goals a game (about the same as Kosi), does he do enough other stuff around the ground to justify his existence?

I think so...

He averages just under 15 possessions a match.

This was his first year with us and one would hope he can improve on that.

He is averaging 1 kick less a quarter than Ryan O'Keefe that some on here rave about and O'Keefe has averaged just 1 goal a match for the last 2 seasons.

god that stat between him and rok is going to become old really soon

15 touches and a goal and a half per game is fine with me...he uses it well...

good boy

Taking the piss?

not at all...he seemed one of the only players in this years finals that knew what they were doing

[milney044]

Red wasn't saying lenny's a bad player, just that he's not the best in front of goals. There certainly isnt much bad to say about Lenny so if he's only got one thing going against him he's doing pretty damn well. Imagine if he kicked more goals, he would be up there in top 5 mids imo.

Those %es are probably a little flattering too given that i've seen Roo, Koz and Milne shank kicks or not make the distance. I'm not suprised Milney's most accurate though. It's a shame though, his accuracy actually probably let him down a bit this year, it's usually one of his strongest assets. 60 goals though, can't have been too bad.

[Lenny_Hayes7]

Red wasn't saying lenny's a bad player, just that he's not the best in front of goals. There certainly isnt much bad to say about Lenny so if he's only got one thing going against him he's doing pretty damn well. Imagine if he kicked more goals, he would be up there in top 5 mids imo.

Those %es are probably a little flattering too given that i've seen Roo, Koz and Milne shank kicks or not make the distance. I'm not suprised Milney's most accurate though. It's a shame though, his accuracy actually probably let him down a bit this year, it's usually one of his strongest assets. 60 goals though, can't have been too bad.

probly my bad... should read things right!!!!
if that's the case sorry red!

[saint66au]

Sam Newman once said that the only two things in footy that have not improved 100000% since he was playing is taking a set shot from 40m out......and the standard of umpiring

Spot on the money for mine.

Would love to see that stats on how many goals Kosi has kicked from more than 35m out. Not that many I'd think

Roo..you can tell early. The first one he kicked in the Collingwood final just came off the boot so sweetly you just knew he was in for a great day. Was like smacking a 3 wood 280m straight down the middle off the first tee

[Bernard Shakey]

Talk about goal kicking yips talk about Lenny Hayes

1999 - 2003 40 goals 22 behinds
2003 - 2008 27 goals 44 behinds

you can't be serious? put tackles laid and 1%s in there while your at it ... Don't sell your story short

Read the post.

It's not bagging Lenny's game, just his goal kicking, or lack thereof.

[ThomasR]

i'd like to see stats on our percentage of goals per entry inside 50 as compared to other teams.

also our number of entries inside 50 as compared to other teams.

i've had a look for them but they don't appear to be available on the afl site anywhere.

anyone have access to these type of stats or know where i could get them?

Apologies for formatting.. stats from home and away season this year

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Team              Inside 50s   Goals  % Goals
----------------  ----------  ------  -------
Western Bulldogs        1171     371    31.68
Hawthorn                1139     354    31.08
Geelong                 1275     392    30.75
Richmond                1082     331    30.59
Port Adelaide           1042     309    29.65
Essendon                1071     315    29.41
Collingwood             1140     331    29.04
St Kilda                1072     309    28.82
North Melbourne         1084     310    28.60
Carlton                 1151     323    28.06
Sydney                  1087     302    27.78
Brisbane                1134     306    26.98
Adelaide                1082     287    26.52
Fremantle               1088     287    26.38
Melbourne                949     234    24.66
West Coast               997     236    23.67

[St Fidelius]

Gees, our inside 50s are shocking ...

ranked 13th....