What I keep hoping for......
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What I keep hoping for......
What I keep hoping for is that player who simply comes from nowhere.
We can look at our list at any time and pick players who should hopefully improve with maturity and experience. And rated on what we know to date, make some assessment of where they might be next season. And that then colours our view on how the team itself will perform during the season.
What I would really like to see is the guy who totally leapfrogs natural improvement. The guy who totally surprises all of us. The one for who the penny has dropped; the stars have aligned. A player who to date has either not played, has played a few games or has simply been a part of the team. But who in 2012 not only demands to be selected each week, but who actually impacts games.
I'm not nominating anyone here as such a player may not exist. But other clubs have occasionally had someone come from the clouds and I'll really like to see the Saints benefit at some stage.
It could be someone who's been around for a while now without showing much, like a Stanley or Winmar.
It could be someone off the Rookie List such as a Ferguson or Andreoli
It could be any of the kids we picked up last year.
It could even be someone like an Armitage, who goes from a solid first 22 player to a really top midfielder.
It could be anyone. The key being the player produces in 2012 something far in excess of anything that could possibly have been predicted.
Maybe next year will be another year where this phenomenon doesn't appear but I'll keep crossing my fingers til it happens.
We can look at our list at any time and pick players who should hopefully improve with maturity and experience. And rated on what we know to date, make some assessment of where they might be next season. And that then colours our view on how the team itself will perform during the season.
What I would really like to see is the guy who totally leapfrogs natural improvement. The guy who totally surprises all of us. The one for who the penny has dropped; the stars have aligned. A player who to date has either not played, has played a few games or has simply been a part of the team. But who in 2012 not only demands to be selected each week, but who actually impacts games.
I'm not nominating anyone here as such a player may not exist. But other clubs have occasionally had someone come from the clouds and I'll really like to see the Saints benefit at some stage.
It could be someone who's been around for a while now without showing much, like a Stanley or Winmar.
It could be someone off the Rookie List such as a Ferguson or Andreoli
It could be any of the kids we picked up last year.
It could even be someone like an Armitage, who goes from a solid first 22 player to a really top midfielder.
It could be anyone. The key being the player produces in 2012 something far in excess of anything that could possibly have been predicted.
Maybe next year will be another year where this phenomenon doesn't appear but I'll keep crossing my fingers til it happens.
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Steven had a bit of hype but he kind of fits that bill. They are still fairly rare the Joel Selwoods, most need a few seasons to get going at full pace. At least we have a few from outside the system in the early 20s age group. They are still more likely to get going early. Saad will be ok if he can keep his pace advantage in a higher comp.
Cripps and Ledger could have been pretty close if injury and opportunity didn't get in the way.
Cripps and Ledger could have been pretty close if injury and opportunity didn't get in the way.
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Steven came out of nowhereplugger66 wrote:Not sure about next year but I still think ferguson can be the one if he can get fully fit. As for next year I think Siposs shows the most class out of our youngsters but he does play in a very hard position.
We are due for someone to come out of no where. We havent had many if any for years.
Another opportunity awaits!
2 or 3 would be handy.
OK I'm dreaming.
But of the crop of debutants last year I was particularly impressed by Siposs, Ledger and Simpkin.
OK I'm dreaming.
But of the crop of debutants last year I was particularly impressed by Siposs, Ledger and Simpkin.
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Joey kinda fits that bill for years he was just an average in one week out the next player.. Then bang he's one of the better mids in the comp ... Dempster was just a plodder who came very good all of a sudden ... BJ had a slow start before becoming a great player ...
Of the new crop I hope Steven and armo make that next step up to be regarded as thebetter players in the comp ... But I also crave for a kid to just go bang like a selwood or Cyril or Barlow
Of the new crop I hope Steven and armo make that next step up to be regarded as thebetter players in the comp ... But I also crave for a kid to just go bang like a selwood or Cyril or Barlow
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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:Joey kinda fits that bill for years he was just an average in one week out the next player.. Then bang he's one of the better mids in the comp ... Dempster was just a plodder who came very good all of a sudden ... BJ had a slow start before becoming a great player ...
Of the new crop I hope Steven and armo make that next step up to be regarded as thebetter players in the comp ... But I also crave for a kid to just go bang like a selwood or Cyril or Barlow
Thats because under Grant Thomas, Monty was nothing more than a role player. RL came in and gave him a solid go in the midfield and he showed what he was capable of.
For me, the player most likely to have the biggest improvement and go from a mid-tier player to a top-liner is Jack Steven.
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I think his disposal under pressure looks disappointing but he can snag a goal and get the ball. he was asked to pretty much take on Ball and Lennys in and under spot with Jones a lot of times. Both look worse at disposing of the footy because they were pressured more than they have been in the past.PJ wrote:I get what everyone is saying about Steven - gutsy in and under player that knows how to get the ball but gee his disposal is disappointing.
Steven might settle down once he has a few more games under his belt, he was a forward pocket when they first played him now he's expected to do a heap more.
He had the ability to score a bag against Geelong early on he should be a beauty.