It's absoultley shocking that a Police case could be tampered with in this way. Of course, I bet most people will focus on Milne and not on the corruption and cover ups that can occur in Vicpol which is a huge issue. Pleae read the statement from the police. There was found to be NO tampering with ...

They are not different. The crux of the issue with both Gram and Lovett was abuse against women. Both were sacked. This smells of politics and a witch hunt to me and I don't personally believe Milne to be guilty. However, how can you sack 2 players for crimes against women and not the other? Gram's...

We have set a precedent with not only the way we handled the Lovett case, but also the stalking case involving Gram and his ex partner. I think he has to be stood down unfortunately, as much as it pains me to say it. It was Andrew Lovett NOT Lovett Murray who is still with the Dons. They are both c...

We have set a precedent with not only the way we handled the Lovett case, but also the stalking case involving Gram and his ex partner.

I think he has to be stood down unfortunately, as much as it pains me to say it.

After hearing the story of the 'events' that night (second hand from people that knew people from both sides), I never believed him to be guilty of what he was accused and I still don't. However, if I am wrong, I would want him in jail. There is NO excuse for violence against women regardless of who...

If he is found guilty, throw the book at him. If not, let this be a chance to clear his name once and for all.

saintly wrote:well everyone is is saying its totally untrue

There were all saying there are no problems with tanking or performance enhancing drugs either....

We're Collingwood players on the juice in 2010 ? Is the pope catholic? The AFL released a statement after the Grand FinalS that Collingwood players were detected with "slightly elevated levels" of a performance enhancing substance You don't have to be Einstein to know why Dane Swan was ta...

The AFL released a statement after the Grand FinalS that Collingwood players were detected with "slightly elevated levels" of a performance enhancing substance You don't have to be Einstein to know why Dane Swan was target tested in 2011 at unprecedented levels and the substance he was ta...

No supporter of the AFL but what the hell did you want them to say? For a start they cleared all teams but 1 in Essendon and one other player from a different club. Out od the 17 other clubs 13 have stated the players isn't theirs. They are hamstrung on what they can say by the ACC. There are ongoi...

Also, what sort of ramifications will clubs like Geelong, GWS and Brisbane have IF the NRL teams found to have come forward are following sports science programs and are using peptides and other supplemental drugs that were part of a program that was put together by Danks and/or Robinson IF they are...

Dank now to sue for $10m is interesting. He may as well because his name has been in all the papers and he is innocent until proven guilty. Cannot imagine him being employed in Australia again so he may as well sue. AFL shouldnt try to bail Essendon out if they are guilty, they did employ these guy...

I suspect that Gillon McLaughlin was very limited in what he was allowed to say at today's presser. He would have been told by the ACC what he could and couldn't say. I also think that the eyes of the world are closely watching this investigation and that it is way out of the AFL's hands, meaning t...

It's damage control. No AD, and surprisingly outed bombers as the team referred to them by the ACC.... Caro was trying to get him to imply it was and he came right out and named them. To me that says if it's a choice between tarnishing the game or doing over the bombers big time, it's a no brainer....

I am so angry and disillusioned at our game right now that words ALMOST fail me. I cannot believe how gullible they think we are? Who wants to start the odds on which team that the 1 player with issues in regards to performance enhancing drugs comes from? What is the bet that it is a one of the perc...

Not going to happen. Purely because too many others are cheating and we don't stand a chance. Call me jaded, but I believe that our game has taken a massive hit today. Worse than when the commission report came out claiming there was widespread drug use in Football codes and then the AFL comes out l...

The AFL is a basket case. If they think that they can clear Essendon and then claim that only one player out of 600+ is in the clear re-performance enhancing drugs and that we have no issue to worry about and that the football public are going to swallow that, they are delusional!! The Commission re...

Fox Sports AFL on twitter are running with this headline:

Strong rumours are emerging that the Essendon Football Club are clean and it's all been a massive storm in a tea cup.

Yeah right. I've got a bridge in Sydney that I can sell ya too!

We are clean. Only 1 club that MAY have been using performance enhancing drugs and 1 individual using performance enhancing drugs. (emphasis on the word MAY). Everyone else is squeaky clean, and if we can, we will protect and clear Essendon ASAP so they can go back to cheatng and lying, which they ...

Bet my last dollar on the fact that regardless of what investigation takes place, there will be a cover up. Essendon MAY take a hit, but IF they do, they will be the sacrificial lamb in this whole sorry saga. Call me paranoid, but the evidence is just does not support what they are trying to feed us...

Absolute Crap interview. Why in the hell would a certain team be target tested since 2010 if not having questions about growth hormone levels..?? Also, The Weapon and The Pharmacist were in cahoots during The Weapons stint at another AFL premiership club (whom it could be said physically showed sign...

Not overly clear whether 2 clubs had doping of multiple players, or whether it was 1 club of multiple doping of players and 1 player at another club that was using performance enhancing drugs.......

Anyone else able to get a handle on this?

Essendon appear to be in trouble.....

Thought this deserved a topic of its' own as I am sure there will be plenty to discuss after it......

- Sipposs will play HBF/Mid, and is clearly the new improved version of Goddard Appreciate the report, but I think we might be expecting a bit much if we think he is going to a better player than Goddard next year… One is a 16 gamer with potential but who is still on the fringe of the senior side, ...